Vector Marketing Scam | Cutco Knives Review – My Opinion!

Vector marketing review

Consumers hate them… don’t fall for their simple trick.

If you are between the ages of 17 and 24, you might have heard of Vector Marketing. They recruit students between these ages for “$12-20 an hour” summer jobs. Beware, we all know about things that are too good to be true… do you expect to get $12-20 an hour with zero experience? Read on to find the dirt on Vector Marketing.

Is Vector Marketing REALLY a Scam?

For my disclaimer, I’ll say this:  legally speaking (though I’m not a lawyer), I wouldn’t accuse Vector Marketing of being illegal or for breaking any official codes, laws, etc.  The reason I use the term “scam” is because of the whole system involved.  It’s not necessarily illegal, but the whole protocol questionable. 

The program hides some important issues from the participants, then the participants have to sell in a “Tupperware-style” setting (which can often strain relationships), then participants inevitably make less money than what was “implied” to them during training, and finally, the end consumer gets an over-priced product which smacks of “unethical-ness”. 

That’s all, but what the heck, you’re an adult and you can jump right in if you like.  This is just my humble opinion! 😉

About 2 years ago, my son was looking for a summer job and seen an ad on CraigsList that guaranteed $12-20 an hour jobs for students. The ad stated that you needed to be 17+ with a high school diploma or 18+ without a diploma. It did not include a list of daily activities and was very, very vague. The ad was more like a landing page telling my son to fill out a form and apply. If you’ve been working for awhile and are a professional, you will realize that a $12-20 an hour job with no real requirement (GED) is a little far-fetched.

**[Update May 10, 2018] Vector Marketing is Trying to Manipulate You Online **

This post picked up quite a bit of traffic because our SEO man is very good at search engine optimization (SEO). He informed me to inform you of Vector Marketing’s “reputation management” campaign. Reputation management, the long name “online reputation management” (ORM), is when a company attempts to drown out negative reviews on the search engines.

For example, let’s say the CEO googles “vector marketing scam” or “Cutco knives scam” and sees tons and tons of *real* people stating how Vector Marketing is a scam. This is bad news because around 8,100 people google “vector marketing scam” every month. That is 270 people a day!

Wow, Vector Marketing must be scamming a lot of people! That number is obtained from Google’s Keyword Tool, a tool that shows how many people google which keywords (mainly used by SEOs and advertisers).

Click on photo to see full size. This is taken from Google's Keyword Tool, a tool that reports how many people search for a term.

Click on photo to see full size. This is taken from Google’s Keyword Tool, a tool that reports how many people search for a term.

So, to the CEO, 270 people a day are finding out the *real* image of Vector. That is not good for recruitment (read rest of post for why). That is 270 potential contractors who are not going to become workers. Because their business model involves having college kids selling to family and friends, this really means 270 lead sources are lost. That is a huge drop in advertising reach.

Therefore, Vector does what any other shady company does: hides their dirt. Instead of listening to the outcries and changing, they are only manipulating information.

Below is a screenshot of the search engine results page as of May 27, 2013. The sites I highlighted as fake are sites operated under the purse of Vector Marketing. Do not listen to the claims on these websites. Also, Vector Marketing has been posting in the comment section of this page as well as other pages online with fake testimonials.

Basically, if someone seems to be *too* happy to be working at Vector, it is fake. (Why else are they taking their time to promote their employers? It is not like they are getting paid… oh wait, they are).



Watch out for fake reviews.

Watch out for fake reviews.

Here’s Something That’s Definitely not a Scam!   We think it’s very cool!  Oh, and did I mention it’s FREE!?

Fast Forward to 2018!

Here’s a screenshot from May, 2018 and not much has changed.  The list of critical reviews is growing, and though did not appear in a search for “Vector Marketing Scam”, it did appear when I actually searched for “”.



You Can Help Stop Vector Marketing Scam!

If you don’t want Vector misleading other people, you can end this by sharing this page on Twitter, Facebook, Pinterest, and any other social networking account you have. Social signals are used by search engines to determine rankings and, therefore, if this post becomes #1, Vector losses ;-). If you have a blog, you can also blog about Vector Marketing and link to this post within the blog post. That, a backlink, also helps rank sites.

Now, back to the rest of the article…

When I read it my mind screamed BizOp. That is industry speak for a business opportunity. It is a niche where people sell to other people the idea of making money. They get your hopes up on living the life you want and then feed off of your work. Or they sell you junk. Vector Marketing does both.

I told him what I thought about it and told him he should just go to the interview anyway (surprise, he got an interview… ). He might learn a few things about marketing from seeing how they work–like how they can get young folks motivated to work for them without telling them what they are going to be doing.

The interviews are all group interviews and that all the company has about 3-4 group interviews a week. The interviews had about 10 people. That is 30-40 new employees earning $12-20 an hour a week! Again, this sounds like either the company is 1.) a non-profit, 2.) super bad at finance, or 3.) a scam… the company says it has annual sales of over $200 million and is based in 250+ locations… if a company is that big, I’m sure they know how to manage their finances, so it is probably option 3.

Once you arrive at the nondescript business building, you will be given an intro to the company, Vector Marketing. Vector Marketing is the child of Cutco Knives. What Vector Marketing does is market Cutco products. You, the new sales rep, will go around and find leads, conduct in-home demonstrations, and sell Cutco knives.

What are Cutco Knives?

Cutco is an old US knife maker that used to go by the name Alcas. Cutco owns the Cutco Knives line, Kabar knives, Vector Marketing, as well as a few other companies. Cutco is privately owned and based in New York. Cutco makes pocket knives, folders, kitchen knives, machetes, balisongs, tomahawks, and a ton of other blades.

What is Vector Marketing?

Vector Marketing is a multilevel marketing company that sells Cutco Knives. You can not buy Cutco Knives from retailers like Sears–hence it is “exclusive.” Vector Marketing targets college students as well as recent high school graduates to sell knives for them. In my son’s group interview, the interviewer talked about how easy it is to sell to parents, relatives, neighbors, teachers, and friends. He paints a clear picture of how you can easily make money selling knives to people you already know.

You get a cut of the sale and, as you increase in sales, your cut increases. You also get a cut from sales done by people under you. What this means is if I tell my brother about Vector and he signs up and starts selling, I’ll get a cut of his sales. “It’s a great way to earn passive income,” they say.

The company also has cool things like trips to Cancun and scholarships. Wow, what a great job for a college kid!

How are Cutco Knives Made?

Cutco sells overpriced knives in my opinion. They use 440A steel which, for their three-digit price, is very expensive. You can find 440A steel in budget knives at Wal-Mart.  I’m not saying Cutco makes BAD knives …. just sayin’!

What Cutco does that other knife manufacturers do not is that they offer a free sharpening program. You can get your knives sharpened by the factory for as long as you want. This makes the 440A steel a lot better because, as I’m sure Vector knows, most people never bother to sharpen their knives.

No matter how great the steel is or how amazing the kitchen knife is, it will need to be sharpened sooner or later. Kitchen knives are almost always made of stainless steel. Stainless steel resists rust very well but dulls quickly. Sharpening it will bring the edge back.  A high carbon steel will hold its edge much longer than 440A, and a good sharpening system (as infrequently as you’ll have to use it) will bring the edge back very quickly and effectively.

What do We Suggest?

If you are really in the market for a high-quality set of kitchen knives, there are lots of other (much better) options, considering the quality of Cutco steel.  For example, we REALLY like the Kai Wasabi set from Japan.  This is an exceptionally good set of knives which won’t run cheap.  The 10-piece set is well over $200, but with a very high carbon steel, these knives will maintain a sharp edge for a long time.

You can check the latest price for a good set on: BladeHQ | Amazon

How does Vector Marketing Train Young People to Sell Knives?

First, you start with people immediately near you like parents and close relatives. You show them a 1-hour long presentation. You are paid a base rate of $12-20 per presentation. Yes, of course, your relatives will sit there and listen to your 1-hour presentation.

The presentation will show you a $200 set of Cutco Knives (that the salesperson must buy with their own money). They often compare it to your kitchen knives. Most Americans do not sharpen their kitchen knives so the brand new set of Cutco Knives wins by a long shot.

They then go into the Forever Sharp guarantee and a few other great sales tactics. Basically, the person is reciting what they heard from their boss.

If the target buys or not, the seller will ask for 10 referrals (What?! I didn’t even buy your product so why should I tell my friends about you?). Most people agree because they are too nice. Then the process happens all over again.

More Reasons to be Wary

  • The scam with Vector Marketing and Cutco Knives is that you won’t make $12-20 an hour. That is the base rate for an appointment but most salespeople do not take the base rate because that is like saying “I am inept.” Cutco feeds off of your desire to get a job and make money so that they can get you to promote their brand for almost nothing.
  • You also must spend $200 on knives. Have you ever seen a college kid who needed a $200 knife set? Or have you ever seen a college kid who cooks? Me neither! They could have just given out demos to their employees. That is at least 10 appointments (or 2 weeks of work) for a new employee to break even.
  • You are using the niceness of your family. How can an uncle say no to a niece? That is how Cutco gets you to buy their knives. Most people don’t need a new set of knives (most people just need to sharpen theirs).
  • There is nothing special about their kitchen knives. Yes, Ka-bar is one of my favorite knife brands but Cutco kitchen knives are overpriced. You are better off buying a professional knife set for the same amount of money.
  • You are not reimbursed for travel expenses. Yup, if you drive across the state, you won’t be paid for it and, for in-home sales, you will do a lot of driving.

Conclusion on Cutco Knife Scam

Don’t do it! If you are a college student looking for a part time job, I recommend you get a REAL job or, better yet, do something that will be a stepping stone for your career. Keep the long-term goal in mind, and save yourself the negative stigma and potentially strained relationships resulting from your involvement in network marketing programs.

Real College Jobs

Good college jobs that pay well and are often overlooked are:

  • Lawn work. You can cut grass for residential and commercial properties. They are always looking for English speaking summer help. You will easily get 40 hours a week and a good tan. Look for places like golf courses if you want to earn a lot. I’ve seen ads for $12 an hour (as of summer 2012).
  • Kitchen work. You might need to start doing dish work but, after being there for awhile, you can move up to a waiter/waitress. Tips can earn you easily $100 a night. It all depends on your ability to befriend/flirt with your customers.
  • Pizza driver. $20 an hour at least, guaranteed. Most pizza orders are $20+ and, with a $2 tip and 10 stops an hour, you will get at least $20 in tips. If you want to make more, be a driver for a high-end pizza joint.
  • Grow house. If it is legal in your state, work in a grow house trimming MMJ. One of the best jobs ever. Flexible hours and everyone is very laid back.
  • Bartending. This is the ultimate college job. You might need to start bartending at restaurants before you can move up to bars and clubs. Most bars will not hire people without experience. Bartenders can make $100+ a night in tips.
  • Lab work. If you want to work in the sciences like medicine, psychology, or chemistry, look for lab work at your school. You might need to be a volunteer at first but there are paid positions for students. It is a great thing to have on grad school resumes.
  • Donating plasma. You can earn $100/week for two 30 minute sessions.

Just be wary of job offers that say you can make a lot of money with little work. If that was true, everyone would be rich. Also stay away from unpaid “internships” at companies (unless they are sanctioned by your college)–they are just using you for free labor ;-).


Peter Stec
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  1. I would not call it a scam, it’s not even really an MLM as you aren’t given cuts of those you refer (or if you are, I sure as heck wasn’t told that!). Personally I see this as no different than any other sales or marketing gig. The only real difference between this and brick and mortar stores is that you go find your customers instead of customers going to find you. It is like most other self startups, but rather you’re using a product that already exists and many people do actually use and swear by. Now, in my personal opinion of the knives, they are good when first bought, and even old ones my grandparents have, they are still decent. The fact that they can be sharpened for effectively the cost of shipping is really nice if you don’t know how to sharpen them yourself, and they will even replace chipped knives at no extra cost. So as far as product and general business goes, it definitely is a legit business.

    Many people will get hung up on the “MLM style” marketing where you go through a sales rep, give referrals, and yada yada yada. I was raised as a Boy Scout, I sold popcorn and flowers with this exact method, as long as you’re not guilting someone into a purchase (or the managers aren’t guliting you into making sales), its no more a regular entrepreneurial job than selling your abilities to fix computers. “Hey Mrs. Jones, I noticed you were complaining about your computer running a bit slow. If you’d like I can offer to see if there is anything I can do to speed it up for cheap.” is no different than “Hey Mrs. Jones, I noticed your knives are looking a little dull. If you’d be interested I can show you some of the products I sell that might pique your fancy.” The only scheme like part of Vector that I have noticed is the “the more you sell, the more percentage you can get” bit, which I find myself glaring at with annoyance, but it makes sense if you look at it like regular business promotions. The longer you’re there and the better you do for the company, the more you are rewarded for your work. Again, unless they are hiding it from me, there is no getting a percentage of those you bring on, heck they don’t even seem to give you a thank you. MLMs also tend to make you buy sample products to present, Vector/Cutco has no such requirement, and they even have free loaner kits so you don’t have to spend anything out of pocket unless you want your own kit to own. So no, I don’t see this as a scam.

    Now of course there are going to be better knives out there. There are probably going to even be same quality knives with the similar “forever guarantees” but for far cheaper. Lets not kid ourselves, these knives are definitely for the upper middle class who can make several hundred, if not into the thousand+ dollar range for kitchen knives. These are aimed at families, dad and/or mom has a decent job, family and kids love to cook, ideal kinda stuff. I don’t see single parents buying this, I don’t see lower income families buying this, I don’t see 1%ers buying this (they likely have designer brands or custom made knives from Gordon Ramsey or something), and I don’t see (most) college students buying this. I actually kinda was taken aback from the “college kids don’t cook” bit. While I do agree a majority probably don’t cook (last semester someone tripped the fire alarm by microwaving macaroni without water. Let that sink in.), there are many of us that do constantly. I myself tend to cook 4 days out of the week for lunch and dinner, many of my peers are similar, and some are bosses in that they home cook every meal they eat (where they find the time, I will never know). With that, I took advantage of the sample set available to reps. This to me was a worthwhile purchase due to its very low cost in comparison to MSRP. So long as the company still exists after I kick the bucket and honor the forever guarantee, these will likely be the only knives I ever need.

    So with that short unrefined essay, I think Vector is a decent side gig. Certainly the managers will try to make you treat it like a main job, but I wave them off as I’m not interested in having it as my main focus, but side sales for that little extra cash on the side isn’t so bad.

  2. My oldest daughter was referred to Cutco by another college student. She proceeded with the training and after two days of 8-hour long presentations, decided with her current workload and the vagueness of how she gets paid, she opted out of the opportunity. It doesn’t stop there, oh no, they tried for several weeks, to change her mind. I finally got on the phone with the Vector salesperson and told him that if he didn’t stop calling my daughter, I would report him to the Better Business Bureau. After him calling me a few choice words, I hung-up on him.

    I know for some guys, no means no and for others, it is only a suggestion. I am not saying Vector is a scam, but I do have to question the shareholders of this company about their employees. If this is how they would want their daughter to be harassed and then call me a few choice words, then you are not the fathers I think you are and for sure you are not the company I would want to invest in.

  3. Vector is great! I bought my sample kit on my very first day of training. Then, I got free CutCo knives from attending conferences and doing advertising. Now, I have almost $2000 worth of CutCo. The quality is so good. I’ve worked my butt off and I am now half way towards my 3rd promotion.

    1. My son started working with Cutco around Thanksgiving 2019. It was good at first. They gave him the demo kit no cost. For every demo he does he was told he would be paid $15. If someone buys then he gets the higher of the two. If he sells a big set and his commission is higher than his amount of demo he gets the commission only not the per demo as he was told when he first went. Problem is after you run out of family and friends you’re going down a third, or fourth person recommendation. A lot of people will say they are going to do the demo and the day of my son has had as many as 10 people just hang up when they realize it’s their time for the demo. No pay for that. Now that he’s gone two weeks and not made a sale, yet has done a few demos they are threatening to charge him for that once free demo kit and since he hasn’t made a sale are denying him the $15 per demo for the actual demos he has done. Scam…maybe not during their honeymoon time with you. Once you have difficulty they’d rather not pay and get rid of you and on to the next sucker!

    2. Hey Teresa;
      Thanks for your input. When I expressed my opinion in the article saying Cutco was a “scam”, this is, in part, what I meant. I didn’t mean they are a 100% rip-off company at all. I just meant that on issues where there is some grey area, Cutco will (like many other companies) make it very obvious that they are looking out for themselves before their customers or employees, and they make it VERY EASY to get disillusioned by their approach and disappointed with their company. That’s all!
      Thanks for the insight.

    3. I wonder if this is something in the US only. I have started the training process for Vector Marketing/Cutco and have not been given an option to buy or even use a demo set of knives. Everything is online and we don’t even have to go door to door. It’s all over the phone and all the consumer needs is a laptop/computer/tablet while on the call to watch a video.

      I have no doubts that the marketing part of this company could be a little more ethical, according to what I have read. In regards to the actual product, a friend said that they have used it and it seems to be as good as advertised. I have always admired a good set of knives. I am a believer in a good carbon steel myself.

      During the training, they will compare their knives to other well known ‘high quality’ knives like Henckel, Wustof, and Shun and say that over time, there’s is better due to the sharpening service and the ‘Double D edge’ and ability to wash in the dishwasher . Overall, I will continue through the training and allow others to make up their minds.. I just thought I’d put my 2 bits in.

  4. Hello,

    I’d rather not share my name, but I’d like to share my opinion if that’s ok? I have worked with Vector for over a Summer and there is a “right” and “wrong” way to do it. They say you shouldn’t do door to door sales because it’s not efficient, but they do not forbid it. You are able to go from door to door. It’s recommended to start with you parents and family and neighbors and friends because it builds confidence and allows you to practice your communication, presentation, and public speaking skills. Those initial people will give you honest feed back. It teaches you networking and time management skills quite well also. The only way it’s a “scam” is if the manager tries to force reps to sell to their initial family. I do support the make of the knives, I think they are quite effective at their intended purpose and if the reps parents like them too, then the child can hook them up with a discount. All of which isn’t a scam. None of the meetings other than the training are mandatory so unless your manager is an asshole, just don’t go if you don’t want to. In a way, it teaches discipline. I do not believe vector is bad because it taught me skills and valuable lessons, but continue to say what you want. There will always be 2 sides on a coin, but if you view an opportunity with logic then you can maximize the profit. I believe I did with posters, door to door sales, and helping my initial contacts with the best discounts I could legally give so they got what they wanted at a cheaper price. I am biased because I’ve worked there. Regardless, I hope everyone has a great day.

    1. Excellent comment! To all haters out there – read the comment above and take a lesson on how to disagree with an article but do it respectfully with some decorum. I am not the original author of the article, nor do I have any passionate view on this issue. However, I do like fostering dialogue and appreciate decent comments whether they agree with my articles or not.
      Kudos to the author (who wishes to remain anonymous)

    2. Oh please , enough of this bs.. I m 32 years old and I remember when I first saw the vector advertising in high school I jumped on it. The moment I realized it was in some ghetto basement and they make you spend 200 dollars to start I left right away. They pray on the high school and college students. This is 2019 and I can’t believe they are still trying this pyramid scam.

    3. They told us we weren’t allowed to go door to door and could only use recommendations. That’s the main reason I quit the job.

    4. I just started working at Vector. Let me address some of the misconceptions and misinformation I saw here:

      1) Vector Marketing is NOT a MLM.
      At the end of training, we were asked to provide a list of friends who might be interested in Vector. We do NOT get any percentage of the cut of anyone we recommend.

      2) I do NOT have to buy the sample knives.
      Yes, the sample knives might have $200 or more in retail value, but they were loaned out to me for free. As long as I maintain 1 appointment per week, I can keep the set and use it at home as well.

      3) We are NOT limited to recommendations.
      You can choose to go door-to-door (some of the top reps do), but they recommend you use referrals.

      4) My training facility (local office) is a well air-conditioned, well-maintained facility.
      It’s possible in other areas of the country that their offices might be dirtier, but mine looked like any other office.

      Also, depending on the area that you live in, selling Cutco could be a more profitable pursuit. You might or might not be cut out for Cutco, but you can try it out for the first 10 days. I can’t vouch for other locations, but I can vouch that my location is run properly.

  5. So my family had a family friend that works with Pampered Chef, and I thought Vector was just like that. The buying of the knives and direct sales didn’t faze me, because I know a person who does the same thing that isn’t a scam.

    I became nervous for other reasons though. The letter they sent me didn’t give me any information about the company other than it is an international company and the year they were founded. The $18 an hour is a lot for someone who just today graduated high school and has only worked as a cashier. Basically, it was all too good to be true.

    Being the naturally curious person that I am, I research this company. Too many lawsuits for my liking, and so many negative comments. But for the real story, I went to the Better Business Bureau. Sure this is a legit company, but their practices aren’t the most legit.

    No loss to me though. I am not cut out for the world of sales or business, and I am not able to drive.

    1. I went to the BBB too and came to that decision as well. A legit business with shady practices, I’ll just work at Costco for a real $17/hr wage.

  6. I’d like to thank all of the pro-Vector commentors for making it certain that I will not attend the interview tomorrow. Y’all haven’t acknowledged a single valid point in hundreds of comments I’ve read tonight. Glaring facts have been ignored–the quality of the steel, the validity of peoples’ experiences–in favor of spouting out more of the same rhetoric. Some of you guys resorted to swearing and using slurs. I understand that sales isn’t for everyone, but I’d say at least 70% of these responses cite laziness and unwillingness to commit as reasons they have disliked their experience with the company. Seems that the successful people here are awfully quick to judge others in a hurtful way, and I’d rather not be one of those people.

  7. Thank goodness I found this article. I have an interview scheduled for tomorrow and I am so glad I now know not to waste my time. I was iffy on how fast they responded and the automated interview system really raised red flags. It is so vague, and I am glad you are here to give another side other than the “its great you will love it!” mentality the company is trying to sell me on. I have a big family and social group, I cannot imagine ruining those relationships over some scam that is pretending not to be a scam. Thank you, please keep this article up.

    1. Hey Jenna;
      I attended a wedding this past weekend and I sat right beside a guy who said he sold knives for a living. You guessed it! It was Cutco! He said he was doing well, but most people he knows doing it are not doing so well. He assured me it was not an actual scam (pyramid scheme, etc.) but there is subtle and unintentional deception. Very few people (this guy guessed about 5%) actually made decent money while the other 95% get their minimum commission (not even enough for a burger and fries) for each meeting and then give up sooner or later. Here’s a bit of a secret insight; Successful Cutco salespeople rent booths at tradeshows for $1000 – $2000 and work with a sales team (like real estate agents).
      Thanks for checking out our site!

    2. Jenna me too I was scheduled for an interview tomorrow an decided id try to Debunk their company found this article and was blown away. So glad for the time saver

  8. I posted here a few weeks after I first started working with Cutco a year ago, but I see that the article has still not been updated with correct information. So here’s my second attempt at providing actual facts about Cutco/Vector:

    Alrighty, there’s a lot to unpack here. I’ll say it before anyone accuses me of a positive bias: I’ve worked with Vector/Cutco for almost a year now. However, my goal in posting this comment is not to convince you that you’re wrong, that Vector is the greatest thing ever, that all negative reviews are fake etc, etc. I’m posting this because there was a lot of inaccurate information in your post, and some of it is the reason I almost didn’t go in for my interview a year ago (thank God I did).

    First off, Vector Marketing is a direct sales company, NOT a multi-level marketing company and yes, there’s a difference. MLMs have 2 sources of revenue: personal commissions and commissions from down-line distributors (hence the term “pyramid scheme”). Vector does not operate within this multi-level structure. I could recruit 100 people to work with me and I would be paid nothing, like zero (0) dollars, on anything any of those people sell. That’s because Vector operates in direct sales, in which each representative is responsible for their own business and income and nothing else.

    Going off of that, here’s how the compensation system ACTUALLY works. There’s a base pay of $15-17 per appointment. Notice it says per appointment, not per hour, because this is not an hourly job. Now it might not seem like you can make a lot of money doing 6,7 appointments per week but that’s because base pay is NOT the main source of income. The base pay is actually something the company offers for new sales reps as a cushion to boost their confidence in getting started. That way they’re not stressed about making a sale to make commission (because they’ll receive the base pay if they don’t sell), and there’s less pressure on them and the people they’re presenting the product to. Now yes, the majority of income is made off commission. But what sales job isn’t? Furthermore, can you name a company that pays its representatives up to fifty%, yes FIFTY% (50%) commission on what they sell? Vector does!

    Now, the thing that gets most people angry: unpaid training. Yes, training is unpaid. This is because all sales representatives and even all managers (except for corporate) are independent contractors and not employees. Meaning they receive a 1099 during tax season, not a W2. Employees are paid hourly and thus must be compensated for training. Independent contractors are not. Now, most salespeople have to pay to go through sales training seminars in order to learn the right techniques, phrases, skills, etc. Vector not only offers this training for free, but they provide a sample kit of products ($300 retail value) and other training tools to reps completely free of charge.

    Lastly, I just want to say that no, the job is not easy. But it’s ridiculously simple. All you have to do is read the manual word for word, cut up some stuff to demonstrate the quality of Cutco, and bam, the product literally sells itself. Reps are there to provide information, not force a product on people. Now, I said it was simple, not easy for a reason. The job requires a decent amount of self-motivation and time management. It’s NOT your regular clock-in, clock-out job where you can do the bare minimum and scrape by. But if you’re looking for a fun, unique job where you can gain actual applicable experience and skills, then Vector is definitely the place for you!

    (As a side-note about partnering with retail companies, it’s more economically viable to continue with the direct sales model. All Cutco products are made in America which is considerably more expensive than out-sourcing to other countries, and selling via retail stores would hike up the price extensively. We do direct-to-consumer sales to cut out the middle-man and save our customers money).

    My social media info is below if anyone has legitimate questions about Cutco/Vector. Personal attacks will not be responded to.
    – insta: isavald
    – twitter: @idkbeiia

    1. OK, you want a comment?

      “… All you have to do is read the manual word for word, cut up some stuff to demonstrate the quality of Cutco, and bam, the product literally sells itself…. if you’re looking for a fun, unique job where you can gain actual applicable experience and skills, then Vector is definitely the place for you!”

      I was willing to consider giving you the benefit of the doubt until I read THAT.

      “We do direct-to-consumer sales to cut out the middle-man and save our customers money …”

      And if there was any doubt, the “we” and “our” betray the nature of your connection to the company. Oh, I have *no* doubt that people higher up at the chain at Vector do *very* well … as long as you can keep pulling new recruits in with spiels like this, that is.

    2. im leaving this comment for the david that posted under this comment.. ive been working with vector for two weeks and made twice as much as i would working in a month. i am gaining a lot of experience and the product does sell it self. i always read the manual word for word.

  9. Dude I’ve only work four days and two of my friends hated it and I love it. Yeah you have to work hard Becuase not everyone has work ethic. Unlike my job at Walgreens we’re I stood around all day. Sure training was long and it was sketchy at first but if I’m honest it’s. Because people saying stuff like this when never having worked the job or maybe having a bad experience with bad managers? Every job has those I hated my manager at walgreeens the store was literally falling apart because of him and Walgreens is a “legit” company jsut like vector is. You doing research and saying all this stuff like you know everything is like researching vaccaines and then going out and saying they cause autism Becuase you found one article the supports it. It doesn’t replace a degree as a doctor or a scientist that invented those. Sure that’s different from vector being a company but how will you ever know what actually goes on if you don’t work there yourself and see for yourself people that say it’s a scam are just salty that people were to crappy at the job to do it right or maybe they just had a bad manager like mine at Walgreens. Sure maybe they do some shady things like getting only college or high school kids but that probably because most of the incentives they have to work are for scholarships? Or providing job skills? You know what actually I’ve ran into countless people that own cutco knives. And they love them to no end. And if you doubt cutco THEY MAKE KA-BAR KNIVES stuff the military uses. You know the knives marines use? God I wish I got paid to write this Becuase i could jsut do this all day. You can do all the research you want but YOU WILL NEVER KNOW TILL YOU TRY. I wish people would do that before putting your opinion on the internet. Especially the person that wrote this like tf you only respond to people that agree with you.. you don’t even acknowledge the opposing view point which is … high school level writing ? I don’t know I think I learned it in middle school ? Why don’t you respond to this and all the other REAL people that commented on your opinion and next time why don’t you cite your sources? Which is also a thing taught in middle school

    And please I dare you to respond to this whoever wrote this you might even make a compelling argument for once.

    I hope you have a horrible day,
    Salvatore Longo

    1. Hello Mr. Salvatore Longo – “Dude” 🙂
      As you know, all the articles on this website are put out there to invite people like you to give us your opinion. I think if you read carefully through the comments, you’ll see that we put as many comments in favor of Cutco as opposed. So, your criticism that I only respond to people who agree with me is 100% false (you’d know that if you actually read the comments). The whole idea of this article is to spark discussion, but it was never meant to enrage people like yourself. In the future, I would strongly urge self-control when commenting on articles. I could edit your comment to sound a little more educated and diplomatic, but I did not in case you wanted to sound angry and hostile.

      However, I do appreciate your leaving a comment, and honestly Mr. Longo, I truly hope you have a good day! By the tone of your comment, I think you need a good day!

      blessings to you,

  10. I went to Vector training session and it was soooo long and everything there were rich white kids who pay $50,000+ to go to college. So they were all excited to do this whole marketing thing . I can’t do it though you will ruin friendships and family relationships working here . Not a good look for work . A waste of time if you ask me .

    1. You should’ve stayed for training I swallowed that pill and said it’s an opportunity and now I’ve made over a $1000 in the last 10 days at cutco. I love it.

  11. I worked selling knives for half of this summer (2018). Looking back, it was an awful experience but also taught me a lot. The money I earned helped me out a lot and the promotions did come fairly quickly. Also I did not have to purchase the appointment set so the only thing I had to break even with is the 14 hours of unpaid training. However, it is 100% too good to be true. The whole business revolves around taking advantage of kids, pressuring them to sell to family and friends parents. It was awkward and difficult asking for appointments and sales from them. The district manager was a sexist jerk and was endlessly on my butt about work. The job advertised it’s flexible schedule but that was not the case. In my interview, the boss told me that there were only 2 meetings a week that would last for 3 hours. That seemed cool with me and not hard at all when I thought about my best friend having to work 8 hours the next day at Target. However, the meetings were unbearable, and often lasted around 5 hours. During the “meetings” (unpaid btw) the boss was always hovering over you listening to the phone calls you made with friends and family to try to set up appointments. Every day the boss also endlessly called, texted, and emailed every day to “check in” and pressure more sales and appointments.
    I know this isn’t how it is everywhere, but my co-workers were some of the worst humans I’ve ever met, fully embracing The Wolf of Wall Street attitude of wanting to be the world’s biggest asshole.
    I truly do like the knives more than any other. The part I still appreciate about the job is that you really can be extremely successful/rich. However, if you want that then be prepared to lose relationships, sell your soul, and give up all your free time. But vector marketing is an actual piece of crap. I don’t know how they live with themselves.

    I’d also like to point out that any person that defends Vector Marketing/Cutco on this feed of comments sounds completely brainwashed/zombified/robotic. The writing style of those people exactly matches the writing style in the Cutco selling script binders.

    Although the money was nice, I like the knives, and it was a good learning experience, Its. A. Scam.

    1. Look bro as an active rep I get it. You were in bad office, you had a bad experience with your manager it sounds like. I hope I’m not coming off as a robot when I say I understand what you mean, I really do. My only question is what part of it was a scam? You said you liked the money, the product, and the experience but just didn’t like the people in the office. Idk if you know this but if you work there you never have to go around the office. If you purchase the demo kit for the $90 it costs for the $400 worth of product it contains, you can sell on your own time and not worry with the meetings (although I do suggest them as they do help you get better at the position).

    2. Hi jack, thank you for the insight. I have one big question, how does it ruin relationships? Just asking because I was thinking about trying it.

  12. Let’s start off Vector or Cutco is not a scam! I am a sales rep and I started working for them 4 weeks ago. I am actually top 10 sells rep in the division. I learned so much in training and NO! i did not have to buy my knifes …let’s get the facts right! Everyone starts with base pay and its $20 a demo thats one of the things you got wrong. I make 30% of how much I sell and i will never go down just up. WE don’t go door to door we start with family yes but then we go through people who we been personally recommended too! Working with vector i became a better sales rep… learned so many tools in life! Organization, speech, and how to feel good about your self and teach you how to work in the real world! so my advise to actually try it before you speak or don’t say anything at all if you haven’t even been or dealt with US. So technically your the one with the FAKE news!

    1. Hi Chey;
      Thanks for your comment. I appreciate that you’ve kept most of your comments pretty civil, and that’s why I’ve posted your comment. Remember, I’m just a moderator on this topic and I personally have not been involved. I’ve done some research and then I’ve considered all comments from everyone. My biggest issue with this is that there is SO MUCH information coming from the “scam” side of the argument. I don’t see that with most businesses. I suppose network marketing businesses create a polarized environment because some people do well in the system and others really don’t. I’m not sure, but I am sure the debate and controversy will continue. Best of luck as you grow your business.

    2. I apologize and don’t mean to counter, but it sounds like they didn’t teach you to take criticism. It sounds like you are in denial the way you write with the “hopelessly optimistic” tone. I am not going to say anything about the company or validity of this product or lack of validity or not in your comment, but sounding offended is not the way to convince people that you are right Mr. *cough* sales rep. I will say this is not a job or field that was made for everyone, but it is necessary and there are people who are naturally inclined to handle the sales environment. It sounds like you are one of the few, so congratulations I’m glad it worked out, but understand that some people are less inclined to get 20 appointments or more a day which makes it difficult to make good money.

  13. I spent a summer working for Vector Marketing, selling Cutco knives, back in 1993. Or maybe it was 1994. I didn’t make much money, and have no idea if it was possible to actually make money. I wasn’t very good at selling, mostly because I didn’t have any interest in prospecting. I just did it because I needed to do something that summer. 🙂

    I do still have a couple of knives that I bought that summer, though, and 24-ish years later, they are still in great shape. I have no recollection of how much they cost back then, but even if they were $200 each, that’s still under $10/year each. I’m ok with that. I do hit them with a steel pretty often, but have never had to have them formally sharpened, and they still cut very cleanly, but I’m not very abusive to my knives. Other than a Kabar, which does take a beating.

    I’m not a huge fan of the hard plastic handles, though. Especially when they get wet. They feel too slippery. So the Cutco knives are really only used for prep work. Chopping veggies, trimming meat, etc. Maybe that’s their sweet spot.

  14. Heres a guide on how to sound like a real person, according to Cutco.

    1. Mention how much you make.
    2. Mention college and how much it helped you
    2a. Mention summer.
    3. Mention how high quality the knives are.
    4. Never mention the shady business practices.
    5. Mention that “its hard work but it pays off” (literally cntrl + f the word “hard” and you’ll see what I mean)
    6. Never mention how it’s actually never more economically viable than a lower paying by the hour job, see what Jack on May 16 posted to understand that.

    How to be a real person who’s just really dumb
    1. act like them being nice doesn’t mean they’re scamming you.
    2. brag about making 300 in 3 days on a good streak.
    3, get really defensive and refuse to see any negatives about it, so you don’t feel like an idiot for being part of a scam.

    1. Lol quite a list you’ve got there. You make some points but have you ever tried working for the company before? because I agree sometimes they all sound the same and it can be repetitive but it’s the same as owning a business. Some weeks, business owners don’t break even sometimes they do. And in regards to it being economically viable, that’s only true if someone doesn’t work consistently. If you have a business and don’t have it open consistently throughout the week, say you were open Mon-Fri but didn’t show up Tues or Wed, then you’d probably lose business and money. The same is applicable to Vector. If you only want to work two days a week then you can do that, but you have to work in that time period.

    2. I worked for Cutco for a Summer over 30 years ago. I am now a Professional Busines Consultant and have been in the Business and Sales since graduating from college. I am also an owner of those Cutco knives I purchased for my Demo over 30 years ago. I also bought a Set and I cannot believe not one person has mentioned the scissors!
      I read the above article and some responses. Here is my opinion……
      1) I do not believe this company is Shady or a Scam, at least not from my experience with them either as a sales rep nor as a knife owner.
      2) As a Professional in the Sales /Business world it is my observation and a fact that Sales is not a profession for everybody. Some people are better as Clerks or Landscapers or Bloggers, etc….
      3) Sales is a Profession in which your Skills and Effort and Product determine your income as well as Demographic area and other factors or variables. However, the bottom line is Sales success is directly related to Effort, Perseverance, Preperation, your Pride and Enthusiasm for the product and your Determination to succeed.
      4) My professional opinion is that people, who, for whatever reason, were not succesful at Practicing and Honing their presentation on their Family leads, then going out and calling the leads they got from family and then calling the leads from those buying customers…….

      Long story short…Alot of college kids make good money over a summer and get a great set of knives. Others, who maybe…Quite possibly are not as motivated, determined, or skilled decided it is a Scam and has Shady business practices.

      I still use and talk about these knives to this day. There are not many knives that survive over 30 years…
      I also feel I gained some valuable lessons and sales principles from my short time with Vector Marketing that are still valuable today.

  15. Let’s get real here. Working with Cutco has been the perfect summer job for me. With family travel, wanting to hang out with my high school friends, and lots of other commitments, it’s hard to do all that with a regular summer job such as working as a waiter. But because I create my own schedule, I can make money AND do everything I want to this summer. I’ve also learned invaluable people skills and organizational skills.
    As for all the “scam” stuff, take a look at my paycheck. Seriously, though. I did not have to purchase my sample kit, refer anyone else to the job in order to have my own, and NO ONE directly else benefits from my sales, obviously other than factory workers in Olean and managers. But I make 25% commission, along with a base pay, and was never mislead about the size of my paycheck, and was in fact blown away by it. As someone else in the comments mentioned, friends and family are NOT willing to drop this kind of money just because they “feel bad,” I truly believe in the quality of Cutco’s products and my family owned them for years before I got the job. This article is misinformed and if anyone HAS had bad experiences with Vector or Cutco, then those branches need to be fixed. All I know is that my branch has been nothing but rewarding in so many ways.

    1. Hi SOMEONE! We appreciate your comments and we certainly don’t expect everyone to agree with everything we say, or with others who have experienced Cutco for themselves. However, it seems like all the “pro-Cutco” commenters give me fake emails and try desperately to remain anonymous! Hmmm… I wonder why! Come on Bro/Sis, let’s be adults about this and stay above board if I’m going to represent both sides. We’re not in 6th grade anymore.

  16. This entire article was written by someone who clearly does not know anything about Cutco. So many things are wrong with everything that was said. They train you on how and who to approach just like any other sales retail job. They encourage you and push you to go out and make sales. This week alone I made $4500 so imagine what my month looks like! Now i will say i only make this much when I work really hard and push myself. most weeks I will do 3 demos (basically 3 hours) and make $500-$600. You have to be willing to put in a shit ton of WORK. Most people who talk shit about Cutco are people who are/were just unwilling to work hard. You get a 10 “fast start” where they push you to do as many sales as you can. The more you sell the higher percent you start to make off of your sales. The higher percent = less demos and more money. You never get paid hourly for Cutco and I have never heard or seen that advertised anywhere. At my office you get paid $18 for every demo you do even if you dont make a sale. If you make a sale sand your commision is less than $18 then they give you the base pay. I hate seeing misleading articles like this. I have had many friends win trips to Germany and tons of other places. I won a cruise this week! And sometimes if you cant go on the trip they give you a payout for it. I also won my choice of an xbox one or other prizes on top of the cash I made. The perks are cool but the money is the best part. I just wish people would stop lying so I am going to repost this anytime I see someone calling it a scam. Reply if you have any questions abiout the job because I can answer them!

    1. Thanks Mr. CutcoASM;
      …who clearly does not know anything about Cutco?” That seems like just a weensy bit of an overstatement wouldn’t you say Ma’am (or Sir?). I do have a few choice arguments (low-hanging fruit) but I will practice self-control and hold my “tongue” as it were! Instead, I’ll let my readers respond K? The only small issue I’ll toss your way is this: Why is it that there is such a high number of people who have a problem with Cutco? If it was just some lazy people that are unwilling to work hard, you’d think there wouldn’t be such an outcry against Cutco, and lazy people would just die out and there would eventually be an equilibrium of good salespeople working for a good company (like any other legit company with sales staff) and no detractors (I don’t see such an outcry against sales techniques used by Best Buy or even Amway for that matter). But in fact, the outcries against Cutco seem to get louder and louder with each passing year. That alone (never mind all the specific arguments/issues) should raise red flags. I will rest my case here and see if anyone has any further input.

    2. Do they really require you to sell to friends and family initially? Also how are leads obtained?

  17. I started working for Vector recently and I felt obligated to share my experience with them.

    First off, no, it is NOT an easy job. If you’re looking for a part-time or full-time summer job where you can hang out with your friends while earning minimum wage, then I suggest working at a pool, retail store, or restaurant like so many high school/college students do.

    However, if you want a job that will force you out of your comfort zone and actually teach you marketable/employable skills for the future, then Vector is the place for you. Of course, you’ll have to work extremely hard in order to be successful. So many sales reps quit because they lack the time management or commitment to actually set up appointments in the first place, or are too lazy to set more than 1 or 2 a week.

    For anyone claiming that this job forces students to take advantage of family – get real. No one, and I mean NO ONE is going to buy a $1000 set of knives just because they know the person selling them. In fact, none of the family members I did a presentation for bought from me. I accepted my $17 base pay for those appointments, and moved on.

    Now for common complaints:
    1) I didn’t really know what I was getting into when they offered me an interview, and before I went in I was hesitant because of all the (false) things I’d read online. When I got there, the manager was incredibly friendly during the initial screening, and then offered me a group interview in which he’d share more information about the company. I accepted because I had nothing to lose except a few hours of time that I probably would’ve spent doing nothing anyway.

    2) During the group interview, there was absolutely no mystery. I was told I wouldn’t get paid for training (I didn’t get paid for training at any of my other, “real” jobs either), the rules regarding the free demo set were explained (they’re free of charge for active sales reps, and if you’re inactive you just return them to your manager) and it was explained how the payment scale works.

    3) You’re either paid on commission (which increases the more you sell) or on base pay per appointment, whichever is HIGHER. So yes, some of the lazier sales reps complain and toss out the word “scam” because they only bother to book 3 appointments in a week, barely put any effort into the demo, and then end up earning only $51. On the other hand, I completed 7 appointments in my first weekend, sold on 5 of them, achieved my first promotion to the next commission level and made $300 in income. IN. 3. DAYS.

    To reiterate, Cutco may seem like a scam if you’re unmotivated or incapable of managing yourself as an independent contractor, but for anyone who’s willing to work hard and learn new skills then working for Cutco is a great job.

    (Just as a quick aside, through this job I found out my aunt has owned Cutco knives for the las 20 years. She hasn’t had them sharpened since she bought them and STILL swears they’re better than any knife she’s owned, including Wusthof and Henckles.)

    I have absolutely no intention of going into any aspect of business in the future, but I am already grateful for the personal growth I’ve experienced in my first week alone. I’m still fairly introverted, but Vector has allowed my confidence in public speaking to skyrocket, and I know I’ll be applying the skills I’ve learned for the rest of my life.

    1. VECTOR TARGETS college age kids and uses bullying and manipulation to intimidate them and scare them. I AM NOT CUSTOMER and NOR have I worked for them. I work next door.
      I see what is going on. It has noting to do with ambition or laziness with these kids. This is two brothers running a scam on college kids and they probably haven’t graduated from college themselves. I have worked NEXT DOOR to vector for over two years. I see hundreds of college age kids pour into their offices every week during the summer and spring breaks. And I watch them leave in dismay and broken. I have numerous videos of them yelling and cussing at these kids when they try to quit or warn others. Its disgusting and maybe not illegal but definitely immorally wrong. They are preying on a target group.

  18. I work for cutco/vector, just started actually. I’ve sold $3000 dollars worth of knives in just two days. You might not like it, but these knives are VERY high-quality, and to say otherwise is just ignorant.

    1. He didn’t say they weren’t high quality, he said they weren’t worth the money. They’re no more high quality than a $100 commercial set by sheffield with antimicrobial handles, or a $115 wusthof set (the international industry leaders in kitchen cutlery) or for christ sakes an old hickory set holds an edge forever because they’re high carbon, are less breakable than stainless, and a full set costs about $50 and they literally last forever, I have my great grandfathers mid 1920’s old hickory butcher knife in with my new old hickories.

  19. Regardless of their marketing strategy I just wanted to say that I’m impressed with cutco knives. Their double d edged blades are sharp as hell and last forever and honestly that’s all I care about. I bought mine through a close friend who had a demonstration party and as the consumer, per my perspective, cutco is not a scam because you get investment quality pieces for a fair price. My friend who sold me cutco doesn’t believe their multilevel structure is a scam but does admit that it is tough work. She is passionate about the product and that passion comes through in her demonstrations and you too will become passionate about their blades once you see, feel and try them for yourself. Again, I do not nor ever sold for vector, I am just a repeat cutco customer.

    1. Michael, you either work for cutco or you don’t know much about cutlery…

      I sharpen knives for a living and have had customers bring me cutco knives. They are by far some of the most overpriced, biggest pieces of garbage I’ve set my hands on… The steel used in the knives is complete garbage (made in China), and if that weren’t bad enough, they are poorly heat treated as well.

      I always inform my customers to get rid of these garbage knives and to save up and invest in a legitimate company that you can trust, that makes quality products… Cutco is neither!

      Cutco is a pyramid scheme that preys on teens that don’t have enough life experience to see Cutco for what they really are; bullshit.

      What’s MUCH MORE IMPORTANT than buying a crappy set of knives from scam artists? I’ll tell you:

      1) Spend some time learning about kitchen cutlery and maybe even take a few cooking classes or watch some YouTube videos about kitchen cutlery. You will quickly find out that you do NOT need the “240-piece” knife block sets like the average American purchases at big box stores like bed Bath and beyond or from Cutco scam artists. Eventually you will find that you only truly need THREE quality knives in the kitchen. An 8 inch chefs knife, 3 1/2 inch paring knife, and a serrated bread knife. And for those that eat a lot of fish, a flexible fillet knife. That is it! No 20 piece knife blocks required! Any chef will say the same.

      2) learn how to use and master those three knives. There are plenty of YouTube videos and instructional videos on the Internet that will help teach anyone how to properly use a chef knife, paring knife, and bread knife. 99% of the work done in the kitchen is done with your chefs knife. The pairing knife is relegated to mainly garnishes and very fine work. The bread knife is relegated to just that, bread!
      Knowing what knives are truly needed in the kitchen and knowing how to properly use them will quickly bring to light just how full of crap CUTCO is and exactly how they are trying to scam you. Don’t fall for the hype.

      3) learn to sharpen your own knives! Being a knife owner and not knowing how to sharpen and maintain them is like owning a firearm and not knowing how to field strip and clean your firearm. Once again, there are hundreds of YouTube videos and online instructional tutorials that will teach anyone how to properly sharpen a knife. And for those that are extremely inept, there are also guided sharpening systems that are nearly impossible to mess up.

      Knowledge is power and scam artists like CUTCO prey on those without knowledge. Don’t be a victim!

  20. I rencently went to a Vector training session and quit after that session. Vector might be a good job if you are connected into the community in which you are applying. However, I f you are new to the community and don’t know many people, it strikes me as being a waste of time. Doing online appointments has got to be FAR less effective that doing demonstrations inside people’s homes.

    Is it a scam? Probably not, but Vector is certainly sketchy. There was a lot of misinformation, questionable sales techniques, promotional opportunities geared toward employees, and a cult like ethusiasm that the district manager was trying to cultivate in us towards Cutco Knives.

    Then they will try and get you to set up appointments with friends and family during the first training session. While Cutco Knives are high quality, the price is quite high. If you sharpen your knives on a semi regular basis, you will do just fine with cheaper cuttlery. Basically, Cutco is of a rip-off from the consumer point of view. So, why would I be okay with selling that to anybody?

  21. Vector Marketing Company is not a scam in the real sense of the word “Scam” but it’s not a company I would encourage my college age daughter to do either. And the reason is not because of the independent contractor status because I believe that can be used to teach a young person some very valuable lessons in running a business and the many advantages and disadvantages of self-employment. The reason I would not encourage my daughter who is being recruited by this company is the entire sales system, has been designed to take advantage of the empathy most adults have for young college students. Let’s be honest most of us adults realize what these young people are facing with mountains of student loan debt when they graduate and many times questionable job prospects.

    What vector is doing is what is wrong with business today. We see this in franchising where deceptive practices have become the norm and accepted in order to sell individuals franchises. The internet has made it even easier for companies to appear to be honest and trustworthy and appear to offer a quality product even if none of those are actually true. Vector goes a step farther and uses young college students because they realize if the sales process is done correctly the individual being fleeced for an overpriced and I mean grossly overpriced set of knives or kitchen supplies normally will never look back on the sale with negative feelings, they will instead feel good about being able to help a young person put themselves through college. Now if they only judged the product alone compared to what they paid for it they would have many many irate customers. But majority of people do enjoy helping college kids get through college and vector understands this fully.

    Honestly, the college student angle does work and works very well. It’s used not only in cutlery but also in other areas like educational aids. The college kids are learning things doing this job, but I wonder how many realize that the vast majority of sales they make are not because of a great product or a great demonstration it’s because they are being used as the bait to hook the worm. To me it is not teaching the values of being honest and always conducting business in a fair and respectable manner.

    As I read the responses to this post I understand why many college age students who have worked for Vector stand up for them and are rabid cheerleaders for Vector. That still does not make Vector a solid company or a great opportunity it just means that these college kids have bought into Vectors way of doing business and refuse to see anything wrong with the motives they use. These young people have made good money and they spent many hours listening to Vector tell them why they are a great company and anyone who disagrees are jealous or looses.

    So before you take a job with this company you need to really look at how the company operates and decide if it fits with your moral compass. Honestly, you could go out and purchase high-quality knives on your own and sell them for double the price and be as successful if not even more successful than at vector if you wanted. And the customers would get a much better long-term deal.

    1. You claimed that the only reason why people buy Cutco is to help out the local college kid. THen how are programs such as the fair and show program successful, where they set up a table at a Greek festival, a wine festival, or a mall and sell the products to people there. Last fall I worked at a mall for a day and sold $1,600 worth of Cutco. Many times the reps therearen’t even college kids. And if the product is so overpriced how come so many people buy more of it over the years, sometimes even online and not even helping out any rep if they’re getting fleeced? I work these events from time to time and people constantly come up to the booth and say “Best knives ever!”. Too many people to count. The reason why you think it’s overpriced is because the knives you have in your home are probably garbage. If I were used to buying $30 flip phones I would probably think that an Iphone should cost like $150. But of course the majority of iPhones cost way more than that. Same thing goes for ANY product.

  22. First off vector marketing is a scam, they succeed through others success and failures. I worked there and left it just recently. The management is just horrible always mixing things up with check in this person or that person. Your guys programs on putting down on how many days your employeees checks in is just so corrupted. Also I’ve had my checks deffered plenty of times for just not making a sell in three weeks when I have. Your vector pals need to change or posts like these will ruin your precious company. Other than that I find the knives great and all but the job overall is just horrible if you dont got the right clientele, determination, and the fullfillment of your PAYCHECKS NOT BEING DEFFERED FOR NO REASON

  23. I’m a parent of a very successful Cutco rep. There is so much incorrect information in this website my head might implode. Our son never had to spend one cent on knives. They loan you a starter set so you can begin your presentations. As long as you are actively selling, you may use the loaned set. If you do not sell or decide to quit, you must return your loaned set back to your office manager. If you decide to keep the set, after numerous notices, you will be charged for it. Believe me, the knives are worth far more than what you are actually charged. His other knives were given as incentives for his sales. I can give you endless actual examples of Cutco success stories. Many college educations have been paid because of Cutco jobs. Collectively, this is one of the most impressive group of young people I have ever encountered and I have business experience with several highly successful corporations. Yes, it’s not for those looking for an easy buck, but they will give you the training, tools and the encouragement to be successful. Slackers won’t survive, but will they anywhere?

  24. I’ve worked with Cutco for 6 months and made $10,000 as a senior in high school. I did not have to buy my presentation set. Many of the offices are not the nicest looking because they are owned and operated by young college graduates given the opportunity to do something bigger than a desk job. Everyone is guaranteed a base pay if they complete a demonstration and do not sell anything so they get paid no matter what. Sales isn’t for everyone and many kids who don’t understand that complain when they don’t make as much as someone who works twice as hard. Cutco gives an oppurtunity to almost anyone who walks through the door. If they succeed that’s great if not that okay too but everyone gets paid and everyone is treated fairly and that is not a scam by any means.

  25. So i just wanted to post as well! I worked for Vector Marketing and the two things to say are: 1) its not a scam its a sales job, but a very hard job (more on that below) and 2) you don’t have to buy the sample set! Now to the good stuff, its a hard job. The only way to be successful in it is to be a good salesman. But you need to do more that that: you have to treat it like a business. At the end of the year you will pay taxes in a 1099 form. This is not a W-2, like a normal job. You work for yourself, and after the 2 day (non-paid) training you must act alone to make money. The best way to do this is to be very persistent in getting leads. You are at the customers house and you must ask them to hand over other peoples phone numbers. In the 80’s when this job was just getting started that was an easy thing to ask, but now cellphones are personal. By this i mean its is with you nearly all the time, so unlike a house phone that you could only call morning and night to talk about an appointment you can call anytime. This makes you look like a telemarketer. Thus people are reluctant. After you get a huge list of numbers (100 is best) you will see results. The statistics are as follows

    * 20% of the time no one picks up
    * 80% of the time they do, and
    * only 1/3 (33%) will say yes.

    That means that out of 100 calls you have 33% chance of an appointment. NOT a good stat, but that is sales in general and not VectorMarket specific. Now you are in the door and you have to try to sell them the homemaker set, a $800 set of knives that starting out earns you $120. Sounds easy but its not! If you are able to get them to say yes then you want to see if they want more! At the end of the day only 13% on average will say yes. 13 X $120 = $1,560.
    This all sounds nice but its harder then that. You will need to spend your money on gas, food to cut, and your normal living expenses.
    Now more about taxes! During all of the phone wrangles and knife cuts you need to track your mileage, money spent, and CUTCO trips made. Yes your office will try to make you go to conventions to learn how to do better in your job. However, your the boss! Just tell your manager NO! Unless you want to go… its around $100 or more, and is a tough thing to swallow. But more on the tax stuff!
    You will receive a 1099-MISC form around march. The amount you made will be in Box 7. Next you need to reduce this amount by subtracting any expenses related to them. Hopefully you are keeping receipts and documents. Currently the per mile deduction is 57.7 cents. At a $1.95 per gallon of gas thats a fair amount. But lets say with that $1560 you made you only drove about 100 miles. That’s only $57.50 off! And with food (one orange per appointment) about $10. So your at $1,492.5 you will pay $245 in taxes leaving you with $1247.5 to live with.

    My recommendations: if business is your thing GO for it! It’s a valuable learning experience. But take a separate job. You live in America to make money. If it works out great! Find out what you did that made you successful!
    HOWEVER! If you have no plans to go into sales, retail, real estate, or similar… don’t do it! You will be unhappy with the results. The company will not give you anything but encouragement an mental pushes to work as hard as you can.

    The company is not a scam, but it can look very devious. However it costs nothing to you, even if you make $0 but spend $300 on gas you will get a 1099-MISC and you can report losses and Uncle Sam will give you a refund (to a degree). Please take my advise: If you want to go into Business, then try this to learn, but you will not likely make money. That being said there are success stories abound, and your work ethic will show minus your skills.

    1. There is a huge issue with Vector Marketing, and it has nothing to do with being a scam or not. It is mathematically and financially, a lousy way to earn a living.

      Let’s use your own numbers. First of all you wrote “At the end of the day only 13% on average will say yes. 13 X $120 = $1,560.”

      You were referring to 13% of the appointments where you will make a sale. Since you began your numbers by stating 33% of 100 calls, the math should be 33 x .13 = 4.29. Multiple this by the $120 average commission per sale, and your salary per 100 calls would only $600.00, a big difference from the incorrect number of $1560.00 you wrote. And how long would it take to set those 33 appointments? You do not say, which makes your calculations even more misleading.

      Here is my analysis. If you are working at this full time, a good average is 3 appointments per day. Yes, you can make more, but at an 60 to 90 minutes per appointment, plus travel time, 3 is a reasonable average.

      Those 15 appointments per week will pay you $15.00 per appointment, or $225.00 per week. In some areas, the Vector appointment payment may be different, but this is a good number.

      According to your numbers, 13% of appointments result in a sale, at $120.00 commission each. The math is:
      15 x .13 = 2 sales per week, times $120.00 = $240.00 in commission.

      $240.00 in commission plus the $225.00 appointment fee = $465.00 weekly salary, or $11.62 per hour.

      And from this amount you need to deduct all your travel expenses, which can be extensive. As I stated, this is a rotten way to make a living.

      You would do much better working at a clothing store or other retailer in a mall. You would earn the same or more, without having to cold call hundreds of people, not put wear and tear on your car.

      And there is one more important factor that the Vector robots and shills never mention. You are selling freakin’ knives! And even worse, you are selling in people’s homes! I don’t know about any of you, but I don’t like to be “sold,” especially in my house. If I need a knife, I go online or to a store. It’s a freakin’ knife, no different than another other tools. At the end of the day, my vegetables or meat could care less what type of steel they are being cut with…it is just a knife.

      For all of you contemplating a job with these weasels, just look at the numbers I presented. And then go get a job at the mall.

    2. Hey Jack! I do appreciate your passion! I think someone has an opinion huh!? Hey, you and I are on the same side of the argument. The math can be done in a few ways (depending on how badly you’re looking to make one side or the other appear). I was being generous and I always try to sound somewhat gracious in my tone of writing – especially when I am negatively criticizing a person, system, company, etc. But, in the end, I’m with you! Stay away from Victor if you’d like to make any actual cash!

  26. I worked with Vector for about a week. Decided I hated sales! However, the few experiences I had makes me believe this is NOT a scam. I did make a little bit of money but I lacked the motivation to sell. The product on the other hand, was absolutely awesome! 20 years later I decided to purchase the $700 knife set and never looked back. The ‘interviewer’ sold me on it back then with a few demonstrations. The blades are shapes as such(patented D pattern) that they will not dull as quickly as most. 8 years later and they can still cut on a mason block for 5 minutes then slice a tomato with the greatest of ease.

  27. haha. I have worked for this company for almost a year now. I calculated by pay and I make on average $100 per hour. I was 20 years old and a full time student when I began! on top of my paycheck, I have been to many international conferences that include dinners out, comedy shows, limo nights, and boat cruises- all on the company. Yes Vector is multilevel.. so is every other company that sells something. Get your facts straight before you turn many young, impressionable people away from a fantastic opportunity!

    1. “Vector is multilevel.”

      By multi-level, do you mean passive income from salesmen that you recruit?

  28. My son has been selling Cutco knives for a year now. It has been an awesome experience for him. He has made a decent paycheck and since he sets his own hours he is able to work around his school needs. He has learned great communication and interpersonal skills. The knives are great. Everybody, including strangers, that have bought the knives say how much they love them. Many are saving money to add to their set. He is in there leadership program which will look great on his resume after he graduates with a BS in business. This job has given him direction for his life. I know haters have to hate but this company is not a scam. My husband and I have kept a very close eye on it because we wondered if it was a scam. It is not but it does take work and it is not easy to go into a strangers home and sell.

  29. Does it bother you that Im 18, have worked 6 different jobs already (food service, flooring, vehntalation, manual labor), and with cutco this week, my last appointment was tuesday 9/26/15, sold a signature set, gave the man a 400 discount, made $483.80, and that was my 40 hour work week with a good tan as you so stress us to do in you lawn work section. This is such an opinionated review you sound like a twat. If it was a scam, why dont you let you kid into the real world to learn what its like, and if its not, he got a good job. Yeah, we advertise on craigslist, we are not a fortune 500 company. We hire young adults like myself, what did you expect. Nothing is handed on a platter and Cutco knows how to advertise and reach the masses, is there really anything wrong with that?

  30. I do not work for Cutco or Victor, but this article is full of lies and it angered me to say something.

    I am a professional knife sharpener. I do live demonstrations all around the U.S. And sharpen everything including a lot of customers knives. I have seen more different types of knives then probably 95% of the population including old vintage knives to brand new and specialty collector’s knives. I am always impressed when I get get to sharpen a Cutco knife.

    While it does take about twice as long to sharpen them, this is only a testament to the quality of the steel and once they are sharpened they stay that way forever or at least until they are mistreated. The steel in Cutco is comparable to to knives that would sell for 5x what a Cutco sells for and the blade profile is a perfect balance of a strong spine and a thin edge angle. To say that you could get a comparable knife at Walmart makes it obvious that the writers experience is very limited and I would seriously doubt the credibility.

  31. basically everything i was gonna say has been said in other comments already, but i noticed something was missing so ill just tell yall that. first, been working for vector for 3 weeks. is it hard? hardest thing ive ever done (and i just went through 12 years of grade school 😉 ). but you know what? if youre too, and forgive my french, pussy to dish out some hard work for results, then no, this isnt for you. but with people saying that they “lost money”, everything you buy to help you with your demos (i.e. fruit/veggies to cut up and gas spent driving to appts) is all tax refundable. just hold on to your receipt from your gas bill or hold on to your publix receipt and, come april, all that money you spent on the company is refunded to you. if you are wondering what else this wackadoodle dad with a hard-on for dissing a company thats been around since 1949 has gotten wrong, just scroll the comments. this was the only other fact this bozo talked about in his misguided and misinformed rant that i didnt see anyone else cover. btw, my name is just a coincidence. this is my username for everything, youtube, xbox, gmail. so yea, not promoting. just informing the misinformed.

    1. It’s not refunded to you digaling…….it is taken off the top as taxable income. Because you are spending money that has been taxed in some way as in a income tax. Then you are using it for self employment expenses. then you pay a sale tax on top of that for the fruits or a gas tax. Also you mileage. T:hat’s what is refunded to you the tax portion is . Your tax liability is reduced. Don’t give others tax advice if you never did it yourself otherwise you would of known this.

  32. Your fucking retarted. Tell my $2,000 weekly paycheck that I am a scam. I make money because I work hard and am good at what I do. I have also learned invaluable people skills that most kids my age will not learn until their late twenties. And almost all of your facts are false. Fucking faggot

    1. It’s people like you who make our world so pathetic and and everybody settling for jobs hat are below their potential

  33. I work for CUTCO and it is amazing. Nothing beats this job. Its great for a part-time/side job and there are amazing incentives. Bad reviews are probably from those who aren’t sharp or dedicated enough for direct sales. The job is not for everyone but it is certainly still a job and requires hard work.

  34. One thing that you failed to mention and they fail to mention is that if you don’t get a sale in a week, you don’t get paid. For example, if you have 20 appointments in one week, but nobody buys from you they just won’t pay you. I asked about it, and they completely glossed over it by saying that the product is amazing and someone will always buy. Holy cow, apparently Cutco knives are crack.

    1. Listen bro-etta, i dont know where you got those facts, but they arent true. I only know people who are poor as shit and didnt sell any knives for my first week and a half….still got paid for all of my appts though. i have started to realize that people, like you, who post hate-comments do so only because you or someone you know couldnt make it as a sales rep cuz you/friend didnt want to put in the hard work or you were expecting instant results. so what you or your friend does is twist the facts slightly and then post comments like these for a reason i have yet to figure out. but dont worry, detective Blade will find out whats the stick in your craw lmfao.

  35. Huge scam. Got told myself by a Vector Rep “We charge so much for the knives because we don’t make a lot off of our sales reps.” Didn’t even get my supposed $14 per appointment for the six I had called in. Nothing anyone says will convince me this isn’t a pyramid scheme.

    1. did you have the customer fill out the verification form and did you turn the form in? -_-

    2. Where is this elusive verification form?????? My son has made a dozen presentations, called them all into his supervisor, but has not gotten paid for presentations….. calls and emails to his manager asking about this have not been returned.

    3. First, forms are to be signed by customers after the presentation is made to them. The forms are to be turned into their office manager (I believe weekly) then they will be paid for those presentations. They are not called in because they want verification from the customer that the presentation was in fact made. Anyone can call and give random names and expect to be paid for those presentations. Part of the issue is that reps do not follow the instructions they have been told. My son has been with Vector for four years and has never had one problem with pay and has been very successful. This is an actual sales job with a long time American company. It’s not easy work. It’s not for everyone. But there are countless successes out there and have been for many years. At 21, Vector has helped turn our son into a successful young professional.

  36. I started working for Vector about 4 weeks ago. At first, I was kind of hesitant and thought it was a scam. The company provided the knives for my presentations, so I’d say if you have to buy them be on your toes because there are people trying to scam you and pose as Vector Marketing. Secondly, it’s a tough job. Sales will never be easy and it’s all about networking. If it’s not your gig, just quit. Don’t bad mouth a company for your inability to do the job. Thirdly, if you expect to get paid for gas or mileage, you won’t. You are an individual Cutco Sales Representative. Those things are tax write-offs and you’re not compensated for them because you are considered a private business contractor or whatever. Yes, some companies like Paul Mitchell Systems will pay you for mileage/gas, etc, but it varies. If you don’t like that or can’t swing it, again just don’t work for the company. The fourth thing is because you’re independent, you have to take the taxes out of your check. I think each office varies what they offer for base pay, though. I’m not 100% sure. I get $18 before taxes, but my commissions are 25%. The company pays you whichever is higher at the end of the week. You get out what you put into your job. This is my third job. I’m nineteen and have worked in a restaurant for two and a half years. I’ve made at least double in this past month than I make 3 months at the restaurant as a hostess. It’s not your typical job and it might seem weird at first. A lot of people quit because they don’t like it. Personally, I really love this job. The company rewards you for your effort. They have a lot of fun events like Cutco drawings, conferences, and commission promotions. I’ve already hit my third promotion and have a few pieces of cutlery to own forever.

    I guess if you’ve had a bad experience it makes sense to write a bad review. But for anyone interested in hearing more about my positive experience with Vector, just comment on this.

    1. No darling , get it right , it’s not an inability to do a job , a scam is a scam , no matter how smart or slow you may be to sales and marketing .

    2. personally, i dont think its a scam. it may be the hardest job ive ever had in my life (and ive worked as an electrician, so traded in getting shocked for cutting myself lol), but if youre willing to do the hard work, it will work out in the end. only been here 3 weeks and have had to bust my ass. and yes, it is an “inability to do a job” because some people dont want to spend the time and energy making the appt, they just want to do the easy and fun part which is selling the knives. my friend that i started working with quit cuz he was expecting instant results with little to no work.

    3. I just got hired today a Long with a friend. Just like i saw in one of the previous artícles , the manager was more focused on the applicant that was envolved with sports. I was 1 of 4 applicants. Everyone was hired at same time basically. I just want a better understanding

    4. These people are a major scam. I worked for them for two days. Did this fresh out of high school, thinking it was a great opportunity, and got totally screwed. I bought their stupid knife set for $200. I had six appointments within those two days. Their pretty little employee handbook states that just getting appointments done guarantees $14/appt, regardless of whether or not there was a sale. I let my “manager” know that I finished an appointment each time. After finishing my sixth appointment, I called the guy excited and said I was finished with that appointment. I was told it was my own fault I didn’t make a sale. When they were asked about whether or not I would be paid for the appointments I had already gone through, they eye extremely evasive. Their exact words: “We charge the $200 for the knives because not a lot of people stay in the job and we need to make money somehow.” Based on the words of an actual Vector Rep, I’m pretty sure this is a well engineered scam.

  37. A good deal of this information is outdated and the reviews lack a true understanding of marketing processes as well as the Cutco product. I can see you put more effort into it than a Twitter post, but still terribly misinformed and largely false.

    If you need questions answered correctly and truthfully, message me.

    1. I was going to write a long post, but it’s late here, so I’ll just say…hahaha hahaha ha ha ha hahahahahahaha!!!! Vector is NOT a scam. It’s hard work, but it’s AWESOMELY FUN work! I LOVE VECTOR. Obviously, whomever wrote this whole long rant has NEVER met any self made millionaires. Vector is EXACTLY the type of program that these self made millionaires would RECOMMEND to someone who wants to get rich. I know, because I know MANY self made millionaires, and I work for Vector. You are so WRONG, WRONG, WRONG!!!!!!! But FYI…Vector is NOT for cry babies. I guess that’s why all of those people’s kids QUIT…it wasn’t built for them. Wah. I’m going to go think about Vector so I can smile after reading this negative article, and meditate on how Vector is teaching me to think like the rich, while the boo hoos quit and we’ll be hourly wage slaves the rest of their life. Ha ha.

  38. Fyi this article is total crap. People… this company is just like Mary Kay, Premier Jewelry, Pure Romance and anything else like that. They just happened to create a strange marketing company which seems to have some employee issues and inconsistencies. They need to handle that if statements are true. Anyway, I don’t work for them, but I just had a newbie Cutco rep over tonight. Her first paycheck was $250 or so and that’s from her starting out commission of 10%. She is almost at her sales to be making 15%. And it goes up from there, but they don’t take it back just bc you had a bad month. Once you hit your commission increase you stay there. Also, just like the others how target to stay at home moms and people who may want a side job they can work with their life and schedules Cutco is targeting young adults. You know why? They are smart! They are an old company that was known in my Grandmother’s generation. They have to get in with the young crowd now before their name vanishes. Re-marketing a product / name is so hard when it has hit the bottom of its life cycle. Yes, I have a marketing degree. I also wish I had someone come to me with this when I was 17 like my sales rep today. I didn’t know her. I was a referral. She was not pushy. She wanted experience, got credit just for coming out, and I even purchased a ka-bar knife for my dad’s birthday which helps her with the scholarship program she is aiming for through them. I have been in 2 home sales companies like I listed above. None are as easy as this one. I am not saying that you don’t have to put in the effort to make great money bc nothing comes for free. However, she walked in with a notebook, her laptop, her FREE demo kit, the second largest block set they have (bc she one it at a conference for FREE lucky goose) but you don’t need that, a smile and great conversation. I would have to arrive 45 min early to setup after carrying my loads of crap in, help the hostess, entertain people I had no energy for, and then pack it all up after spending time with each guest getting cheap as crap orders and then still having to pack it all back up! Exhausting! So know your story before you slam a company and try to keep these youngins from working hard. Tell your lazy son that life isn’t easy and stop quitting. Tell him it takes 7 nos to get a yes and to get back out there and work for what he wants. So there. Obviously, this article ticked me odd a bit.

  39. My son, who is about to graduate from high school, started with Vector about 3 weeks ago. We knew it wouldn’t work and he wouldn’t make any money but we let him figure it out on his own.

    He worked for two days. Five appts. When he realized it wasn’t as easy to sell as he thought, he immediately lost interest.

    He did not however, have to purchase his knife kit. He got a kit with scissors and four knives. Vector keeps emailing him to send it back or purchase it for $84. He did not receive his commission check Friday. After reading all the comments on here I’m thinking he probably won’t get it.

    1. Hi @DGB:disqus. My name is Ryan Long. I’m the public relations manager for Vector. We came across your post and want to make sure that your son does get the pay that he deserves. Please email us at or you can call me directly at 1-866-704-0682.


    2. If he doesn’t get paid on Friday, I will call you – Thanks…

    3. My son started selling in the beginning of January. He was very gung-ho at first and scheduled 10 or 15 presentations, but when he didn’t sell a home maker (@$1200+) or other large knife set in his FIRSTday, his manager told him that everyone else in his group had already sold a homemaker… in 24 hours. I find that doubtful. My son began to feel discouraged. He got a small commission for some knives he sold, but has not gotten paid for any of his presentations. The contract he signed says he needs to submit a Qualified CUTCO Sales Presentation Report every week, but he doesn’t have such a form. (And we couldn’t find one on the website either). He has to send his schedule to his manager and call after every presentation, so he thought that was how he gets paid. He has emailed his manager, but , no response.
      You say it’s not a scam, but it certainly feels like one. Not everyone can afford to spend that much money on knives and all the literature you put out claims it is no pressure, because they get paid no matter what.

    4. Hi Michelle–I can’t speak to what a particular training class sold in 24 hours. The Homemaker set is our most popular set. It’s common for managers to use the team’s sales success to encourage individual sales reps. I’m sorry that served to discourage your son.

      More importantly, we want to make sure he gets paid. He should have received a Qualified Presentation Report from his manager. If not, he can ask for one at any time to receive base pay. I would recommend he call his manager about it or go by the office to pick one up. Unfortunately, we do not have one to download on our website. It is not common for them to be emailed out.

      If you or your son have any further questions, don’t hesitate to email us at You can also call 1-866-704-0682. That line rings directly to me. If I am uable to answer, leave a voicemail and I will return your call.


    5. Michelle–I got your voicemail but when we tried to email you, the email address bounced back. It’s possible that we misunderstood what you said. I have had more than one person listen to it but we’re not getting it right. Please email us at -Ryan

  40. My real world experience at Vector is the sole reason that I was just offered a job making 75k salary plus commission my first year out of school!!! BOOM!!

    In all of my interviews, not one person asked about my GPA, or other experiences on my resume. When they saw Vector, it’s all they wanted to hear about!

    If you’re a hard worker, and want to have success in life, get experience at Vector!

    If you’re looking for a 9-5 job where you don’t have to think don’t apply.

    I’ve seen a lot of people try out the job and I notice they leave for 2 reasons:
    1) they are more passionate about another job or school
    2) they are self-limiting, and have a victim mentality. (These are the people who say vector is a scam because they don’t take personal responsibility for their failures)

    Because of vector I’m in 0 debt and have a SICKK new job.


  41. I started with Vector when I was 17 as a Biochemistry major in college and opened my own office with the company by the time I was 19. I made tens of thousands of dollars, enough to graduate debt free… just from selling Cutco! This is not a scam. We don’t even have people buy their samples anymore; reps get to use them for free. Sorry that you or someone you know had a bad experience, but there is really no reason for you to try and bash the company when we have 65 years of experience and 16 million customers that know how wrong you are. I truly can not comprehend why you would even bother.

  42. Having read this I believed it was really informative.
    I appreciate you finding the time and energy to put this article
    together. I once again find myself personally spending a
    significant amount of time both reading and posting comments.
    But so what, it was still worthwhile!

  43. Haha. A lot of this is true but i joined and they dont make you pay for your set anymore.
    It sounds like the author of this got the interview and got the first training day but couldnt bring himself to drag his lazy carcass to an actual day of work. Rather, he would prefer to flip his mcchickens at his minimum wage job taking him no where in life. And when he comes to his mom’s house he complains about why being an adult is so hard. I dont hope you receive anything you did not earn.

  44. The knives are great but I ordered a set and got the price I would be charged and was charged 246.34 more than quoted price. I think this is very underhanded and would tell people not to deal with cutco

    1. I just started working 3 weeks ago, but I can still tell you why you were charged more. The sales rep put the order in wrong. It happens to EVERYBODY at some point in time. All you have to do is just call customer service and they will sort everything out. Trust me, ive put an order in wrong once, but they fixed it. It wasnt Vector or Cutco, it was HUMAN ERROR, an honest mistake. The alternative is that the rep quoted you the wrong price on accident. Like I said, could happen to anybody, ESPECIALLY a HS student who’s new and is just learning.

  45. Just FYI I’ve been working for this vector marketing for a couple of months now. I’ve sold over $10,000 worth of knives in a state in which I just moved to and barely know anyone. This job is not hard and it is not a scam. The company stands by what it says it is going to do. Our flyers say $16 per appointment not per hour. And that’s true. They also explain in the interview that once you make over the base pay from commission you only get the commission. Working here is a great opportunity you can advance quickly if you work hard. That is all.

  46. Recently my job of 10 years closed because a land developer bought the building. So I started job hunting right away and one of the posts on career builder was for a customer service/help desk. So I sent the resume and at the end it said “call to schedule an interview” which I also did. The woman on the phone asked me various questions about working a customer service field and then asked if I could come in for an interview and to fill out papers, so I took what little money I had left thinking I at least had a good shot at some sort of job, and drove the 150 mile one way trip to this office. It was then I finally saw the business name for the first time. Soon as I was in the interview I was watching someone trying to sell me Cutco knives. So I am not knocking the product, and it may be possible to make some money doing it, when your in your upper 50’s and one of the last living members of your family, you don’t have a lot of “family” left to sell to. The bottom line is as I was leaving I realized I just blew up 30$ worth of gas I would never see a return on and I got played.. The customer service / help desk was an outright lie to get me in the door and the person I met with just made some money for doing a presentation. No matter how you slice it, they flat out lied in their job posting by hiding the actual business name and product until you actually get in the office.

  47. its not a scam at all, sales isn’t for everyone so people do fail (just like if they fail at sport because its just not for them)the reason there sold they way they are is to cut out the middle man and your not going to find that good of steel in a bucket at walmart there very high quality and just like anything else you buy you should also look at the value not just the price. and if you were to recommend someone like a friend to work with you yes you do get a small insinuative but it doesn’t affect there paycheck you clearly haven’t done enough research and know little about cutco/vector

  48. I can discredit every single “scam” reason he stated

    1) You decide how many appointments you want to make, whether that be 8 a day or 2 so they tell you how many you get to make. I fyou are lazy then you are the one who is whining saying you do not get paid enough because you do not want to put in any real work, you just want to show up an get paid to do nothing.

    2)I do not know why you are making up that you have to pay $200, You get your starter set ( 4 knives, cutting board, vegtable peeler, and super shears) FOR FREE!! you can buy more of the knives if you want to but you do not have to. So there are no costs because you get all your materials (rope, leather, etc) FOR FREE as well

    3) There is no such thing as “using the niceness” of your family, in fact, during my time on the job, my family is the ones who bought the least. They may make an appointment with you out of niceness which there is nothing wrong with that, but no family member spends hundredds of dollars out of niceness to buy knives, they buy them because they love them no matter who is selling it to them.

    4) Obviously you have not done your research very well. Any set of knives that comes close to quality of Cutco costs atleast twice as much if not 3 times as much. And to bew the one who says there is nothing special about the knives is the real scam. They for sure last decades longer then your “walmart 440A” By the way, there is no other knife that uses 440A so do not try to scam people into helping believe your “facts.” And if it is such a scam why does no one send the knives back during the 15 day grace period saying they can send back the knives for free? Possibly because they actually really like the knives?

    5)And you are reimbursed on your travel expenses. Because you are driving for work, you can write off your gas expenses on your taxes which means if you log your miles, you get 55 cents for every mile you drive. You should research a little better

    And to add to the rest of this article. You get $15 every appointment, so 2 appointments a day, literally 3 hours out of your day, you can make over $200 sellling NOTHING. And most likely you will sell something out of that which means you get PAID EVEN MORE. So making money is all uo to you. If you want a job where you want to sleepand do nothing work at McCdonalds, but it is called WORK for a reason, you ahve to get up and make calls, go to appointments, work on your presentation because that is what work is!
    And for current and potential Cutco owners, the knives qualities exceed even the most expensive set of knives 4 times their own price. Sure they are not a $50 set, but that is because they come with A legit Forever Guarantee and highest quality look, material, and results.

    1. You have been lied to if you believe that 440A steel is exclusive to Cutco. It is a common lower mid-grade steel used in lower priced knives. European brands Aitor, Joker, Puma, Linder, and Fox use it. It’s not a bad grade but many premium knives use a higher grade.

  49. Im confused. The author of this site doesn’t even really state why he/she/it believes Vector is a scam. I would assume they got pissy at this company because their kid misinterpreted what they were told in the interview and wasn’t a hard enough worker to actually make it in the sales world.

    If this page was current they would realize Cutco no longer asks representatives to pay for their kit. They can simply borrow it and return it when finished working.

    P.S. Cutco does not sale tomahawks, or machetes.


  50. I Work for Vector Marketing and I can ease your worries because it is not a scam. At first I thought it was, $15-20 base pay, flexible hours, no experience necessary, I mean it seemed too good to be true but I tried it. I got accepted and I have currently been on the job for 2 weeks and 1 day lol. In that time I have made 12 appointments and 8 sales. It teaches you communication and sales skills which are very marketable. I also have another job and since vector is flexible because I go by appointments that I schedule MYSELF, I know when I work and when I don’t want to work. They start you off with a sample kit which allows you to go on appointments and do your presentation btw it is FREE. I haven’t had to pay for nothing but a weekly metro card which is understandable. Sure Vector Marketing isn’t a 9-5 set hour job but it sure is fun because you decide when you feel like working and still get paid. As for people who purchase Cutco, that is not a scam either, when I go to a person house and they decide to buy something from me I either have the paper receipts or I would do it online on my account, I do both just to please the customer.

    For those who want to apply, do so, you’re young, have fun while working, don’t stress over having to wake up early & what not.

  51. I hope anyone reading will notice how professionally the people that write in support of Vector express themselves.
    Professionalism is one of the many skills taught by Vector.

    I worked with the company from 1987 to 1993. I worked with many, many successful students including one (Allison) who earned $50,000 in her first full year while taking 18 hours per semester plus summer classes. Like most jobs, there were people that had moderate success and some that failed completely.

    While I would rate my success with the company as moderate, I can tell you that the company gave me superior sales skills to carry with me into higher ticket item sales. With that training, I was blessed to perform at a level that allowed me to retire comfortably at the age of 47.

    So for those of you that believe in yourself, understand that there will always be detractors (haters) when you work to better yourself. They act this way out of jealousy or ignorance. There are plenty of intelligent people that, while acknowledging the job is not for them, will still be supportive of your efforts and happy when you succeed.

  52. I dont see how this is a scam. Yes, it is door to door sales. Personally its not a job I could ever do, but there are folks who are natural salespeople and will excel.
    We bought a set off a friends daughter. They are heirloom quality. They not only offer free sharpening but also guarantee all knives for life with complete restoration or replacement. Not your life, the life of the knife. I can pass on my set to my daughter in 25 years and they will be like brand new.
    For a serious cook, they are nice sets.

  53. i work for vector. my boss and i make bets all the time and ive won almost everything cutco has. theyre great. ive sold over 30k and what does that mean? i make half of everything i sell. GUESS WHAT? i sold $4000 this week. so you can go ahead and kiss my $2000 check on friday you idiot.

  54. i absolutely love selling cutco.. idk what yall talking about but i didnt have to pay anything to work for them. i make $16 pr appt and 15% commission.

  55. I have been working for vector for awhile and i havent had to pay any money for my set plus i have won plenty of free knives for just my first week of sales, its not a scam at all… some people are just butt hurt cause they couldn’t do their own job or they didnt really try to do it

  56. No you mutherfuckers vector isn’t a scam.. Fucking idiots all you have to do is make sales and ask friends to do demos on and stop being a pussy and you will make money .. I just started last week already have made over 2000 in sales … You fucking haters are pathetic and pussys .

  57. Let me say (from my own experience) that all the accuzations on this page are true. Vector is a scam!!! They do a nice lil sales pitch to 50 money hungry teenagers or college students. Then they rap you up in the 16.75/appt claim (Which payment varies in different locations). However they consistently boast about their co-workers success stories blah blah, to get you amped for selling OVER-PRICED “kitchen cutlery” aka kitchen knives. After a sketchy interview and the stupid group interview they call you to the back office to hire you or not

    From my knowledge 90% of the interviewers are hired on the spot (which is really too good to be true) They’re only hiring 90% because 40% of the 90 quit.

    Anyways after they hire You, ted, miguel, your mom and your dog. Your in for a nightmare!!! Consecutive un-paid training days are set 3 days in a row typically 5-6 hours of back breaking chairs hurting your back. Not to mention UNPAID!! And NO lunch break. After all of that the manager will stand up bragging about his career and life and how cutcos become a part of him BLAH BLAH

    Not only that, the numerous meetings and conferences are unpaid, and if you dont Carpool you find your own way there. Which is not easy considering the conference may be in another city!!!!

    Driving takes gas, and the bus takes fair. Nothings free! This means you’ll be throwing out more money for transportation then your check comes to (in the span of 1 pay period with an average of 10 demos a week and 2 sales)

    Lastly this job only runs on refferals! Meaning your mom’s co-worker or your sweet uncle Bill. Forcing you to scam your family and friends into buying 1,000 dollar sets of cutco they don’t need!!

    In conclusion, yes Vector is a scam. If you get a call turn them down! Or better yet hang up.t

    1. sounds like a disgruntled employee who couldnt hack it because of his own personal short commings in this line of work.

  58. This is by far one of the most biased pieces I have ever read. You list almost no facts about the actual quality of the knife and instead just shoot off a load of opinions about their marketing techniques.

    The few facts you do list are hardly negative points about Cutco. Most of the one which are (10 referrals) are outdated and some (stainless steel) are outright lies. You wouldn’t wish traditional stainless steel knives onto your worst enemy.

    The knives are certainly not the best in the world, but are much better in comparison than most kitchen knives. The marketing is also not nearly as pushy as you make it seem; in fact, pushy salespeople traditionally do worse. Maybe your son, or whoever gave you the presentation, just wasn’t that good of a salesperson.

  59. I just recently started with vector. Yesterday was my first day and I made a sale. I was very skeptical but was recommended for the job by my cousin, who even though she had some success, decided on a different job. I would also like to state I am not a person just trying to make them look good. I’m a 26 year old father of four soon. I am still on the fence about whether or not I will find success but it hasn’t cost me a thing but time and effort. Which any job asks I have had hourly jobs that didn’t give me any scheduled breaks I got one when I got one. And restaurant jobs where I’d show up and be sent home. I don’t plan on this being my sole Job but the flexibility means I can get a part time and still do this on the side. As it stands now I am happy but it could change. I say try it before you knock it and my manager is very upfront about the fact that many don’t succeed. But like any sales job that is related to your skills. I like it for now I’ll post agin if that changes.

  60. Also you do not have to purchase your sample kit. I’ve been here 2 years and I bought my sample kit a month ago. Whether you choose to or not it’s your choice, you can work there either way. They give you one to borrow and take three references from you to make sure you do not steal the sample kit, but other than that you do not have to buy it at all. You can rent it.

  61. You clearly haven’t done a lot of research. By saying these things you could lose a lot of people something that could give them a great opportunity. I’ve worked for Cutco since the summer of 2013 right after I graduated. The base pay of $15 is there so that if the rep doesn’t make a sale they’re still getting paid for their hard work. It’s also there so that people don’t have to feel pressured to buy if they don’t want to, because the rep is getting paid for being there. Do more research 440A steel is the highest quality steel in the industry. Even Henckles uses only 420. Also Cutco knives are a lot cheaper than leading high quality brands such as Henckles and Wusthof. With the forever guarantee you are getting your moneys worth. Also the scholarship is real and so are the trips. I only worked there one summer when I won a trip to south padre island for my hard work. Also they offer great experience for your resume and their training is in Purdue’s college text books. All I’m saying is don’t make assumptions without doing your research. You can cost a lot of people a lot when you say things without that much knowledge on the subject. Sorry if I sound “too happy,” but the company has done a lot for me. If you aren’t sure about something go in and listen to how it works before you make an ignorant assumption.

  62. Deceitful, manipulative, and a genuine definition of pyramid scheme. They target us younger, broke people who are very naive and use it to their advantage.

    It’s very sad. They hire anyone, and there is no real interview process. They hired 20 people along with me, at the same interview, on the same day. Really?

    Of course it isn’t for everyone, but those of you who worship this scam have already been brainwashed. It’s unsteady pay, and you have to call every day to check in, and also before and after each appointment. In all reality, its like you are always working. It got very annoying.

    I worked there for 2 weeks, made my money back, and ditched. Do yourself a favor kids…open your eyes and ears, and don’t waste your time.

    If it sounds too good to be true, it most likely is. You’ll save time, gas, money, and common sense.

    1. “a genuine definition of pyramid scheme … I worked there for 2 weeks, made my money back, and ditched.”

      I’ve heard the claim of it being a pyramid scheme, but no actual details on the passive income from people you recruit.

    2. Pyramid schemes do not offer any type of services or products. They simply make money from recruiting into the organization. Vector Marketing provides both a service and a product and in most cases, as a representative make no money for recruiting. So therefore no Vector is not a pyramid scheme.

  63. People will believe whatever they read and that’s a fact I mean how convenient is it for the writer of this article to claim that every one supporting vector in the comments section of this site isn’t a real person now that said do I work for vector yes I am a sales rep one of the supposed targets of this supposed scam
    I’m a hard worker and I present the product to the customer in a polite and respectful way and because of that most of the people I see tend to buy.
    Given the amount of time it takes me to book my schedule, the amount of time it takes to complete an appointment, my closing percentage of people who buy, and my average order size I make about 20$ per hour of work I do so for me it pays well but hey I guess I’m a “fake” because I take the other end of the argument.

  64. I to applied to a job listing on craigslist for customer sales and service position. I went in for the interview and yes I was a little skeptical. But I figured what the heck right everyone’s different so I decided to give it a try. I completed the training and started working immediately. I quickly came to find that I loved my job! I do not believe that it is a scam in any way shape or form. If you do exactly what you’re supposed to do you will make excellent money! Within three months I sold over $52,000 in Cutco. I am now over $75000 in sales and plan to keep working. I was the fastest growing sales rep Cutco had ever had in the state of Alaska. If you are good at working one on one with people and good at sales and customer service then this may be the job for you. This job is not for everyone but it is legit. So for all of you who think that it is a scam you are wrong.

  65. I went for an interview yesterday, and I could sense almost from the beginning something wasn’t right. They told me on the phone beforehand, “oh, we’re next to Family Video”. When I got there, I had to call to find out where they were, because they were actually a block away from Family Video, in a strip mall, and the “office” had a very small sign on the door (about 8 inches wide by 3 inches high, if that), and no other outside signage. The only things in the office were a desk for the person doing the interviews, and folding chairs for the applicants. The interview was at 6PM on Monday night – what legit company conducts interviews AFTER normal business hours ?!?…The 20 something that was conducting the interview didn’t seem to be very professional. He seemed a little hyper, and was engaged with one of the other applicants in a discussion about high school sports. He never did say what we would be selling, I found that out when I went to the company website before the interview. On their site, I also watched a video of people REALLY singing the praises of Vector/Cutco knives. It didn’t take me long to decide I didn’t want this job. For one thing, at the bottom of the application were optional questions about my age, date of birth, and marital status – all of which are ILLEGAL !!! They also wanted to know what extra curricular activities I was in during high school/college, and my current hobbies. Because of all the red flags I saw before the interview, I turned ’em down for the job, and I’m glad now that I did. This really looks more and more like a pyramid scheme. I’m a little surprised Vector even called me, cuz I’ve been out of high school 30+ years, so I’m no kid anymore – everybody in that office today looked to be half my age…. can anybody say “fly-by-night” ?…..

  66. This page is being extremely unfair to cutco. I’ve recently become a sales rep and am going to be starting my semester of college in the fall. While I do a ton of work to sell this product, which I personally believe is the world’s best cutlery, I am gaining a decent entry level salary and great experience with building personal relations. $17/hr is pretty inflated. I make $13/ appointment or will receive a check based on 10% commission of my sales. Once I hit $1000 in sales I will get 15% in commission and this continues until I have the opportunity to earn 45-50% commission. That’s unheard of in other sales companies! Now, I realize how much I work for the money I make but I appreciate the ability to create my own hours and write my own check while being genuine with customers to sell a product I believe in. To those of you who have stated that anyone who claims to love kitchen knives are full of it, I implore you to please call a cutco rep to visit you. They’ll get paid and you’ll get to see for yourself how your knives compare. I was blown away when the company shears cut a penny in half with ease or when a rather ordinary looking knife out performed my chicago cutlery straight and serrated edge blades. These are great tools for cooking and are very fun to show to people. I really enjoy seeing peoples’ eyes widen when I turn a penny into a copper ribbon or let them use my knives(free btw) to cut a tomato. It’s great experience and a fair job. I’ll probably stop working for them after the summer to become a laborer for lowe’s or go into construction (I’ll be 18) but for now it’s a great experience and I can tell my next employer that I was an independent contractor for a multi million $ company right out of high school. It’s a great opportunity to find out if sales are for you or a great way to become familiar with knives if you’re a fisherman, hunter or an aspiring chef.

  67. i have been working for cutco for a lil over a month now and it is hard and a lot of ppl arent cut out for a job in sales but just to clear a couple of wrong things u said i make 17$ for every demo i do regardless of whether i make a sale. i didnt have to pay for the initial 300$ set they gave me to start off with however i do have to return them if i quit but i can own them for 90$. also i have won another 300$ worth of kniives for being good at my job. i started off at 10% commission and am know making 20% and i made 150$ off of 2 sales last week which were my only 2 demos i did last week. however i do find the product to be kind of too expensive and it is hard to set up appointments after the initial friends and family list but overall i like the job and it is a good start in sales which is the field i want to work in

  68. My son figured out the scam before going for an interview. Is ready for a sales job? Who knows?!, but he is ready to due a background check on a company before agreeing to meet with them based on a generic piece of direct mail. It walks like a scam, quacks like a scam and smells like a scam, it’s a scam.

    1. wow, very biased, you have no proof to back that up, just your judgment of a piece of advertisement.

  69. I am a divorced mother of two college-aged boys and I made $271 my first three days after training with Vector Marketing (In 4 demonstrations or 4 hours outside of calling an hour or two to schedule appointments) I am very excited about this American company and the opportunity it gives to our young people. When I was looking at these people’s assertions that the business plan is a scam and that kids should work “real” jobs mowing lawns or flipping burgers, I had to laugh at the ignorance. Real scams are businesses that get rich off of other’s slave labor with no hope of advancement or opportunity to learn valuable business skills. This company gives average people opportunity by “spreading the wealth around” to quote a famous American president, and not sending so much money to Christian-persecuting communist countries.

  70. As evident in the Grammer and use of profanity in many of the responses given by those seekimg to “debunk” Vector, many of these were given by disgruntled lazy teenage workers who didn’t work hard at the job and as a result did poorly. As a manager at a vector office who started out as a sales rep, doing over $40,000 in personal sales my first summer and making about $14,000 in income from mid June to late August, I can guarantee that it is by no means a scam. Because vector is so flexible in who we hire, we obviously see all kinds of people. Many people come in seeing the $15 base pay (notice it does NOT say $15/hr). They go out and do demos with their 18 year old bum friends who couldn’t buy a meal from McDonald’s and then expect to get a $15 base pay when the person had no chance of buying anything anyways. During the interview process before anybody is hired, and all throughout training, representatives and potential representatives are told that for a demo to count, they must follow the program and see somebody who is at least 25 years old, married, and has a full time job. This is so reps don’t show it to their 9 year old sister and expect to get paid for that. This is not flipping burgers at McDonald’s. It isn’t a mindless droll where representatives show up, go through the motions for 8 hours and leave. It is for those who are interested in developing personal skills and make money that they would never have the opportunity to make flipping burgers somewhere. Even if this were a “scam” I wouldn’t mind working for a scam where, in some cases, I made almost a thousand dollars in one appointment. Either way, success with vector is completely reliant on the Individual. You have the opportunity to make what you feel like you are worth.

  71. I don’t care for the company I work for, but at east the knives are of quality. They cut a better than carbon-steel knives, keep their edge as long (with ought being re-sharpened), and don’t rust like carbon. As far as being the same as Walmart “budget knives”, Cutco is obviously better. When was the last time you could see your reflection in a knife?

    As for the company, I don’t care much for reading off scripts or outlines and not being paid hourly to help in the office, but the pay is great. My first week I didn’t sell a thing and a few people cancelled on me, yet I made $140. Although I am not the best salesperson, I still make a profit. And if I applied all the advice my managers give me at the sacrifice of the people I take care of (my elderly grandparents who need 24-hour care, done by me and two other family members), I could be making even more money. I will never do that, but I still have the knowledge that I could increase my pay exponentially if I was that greedy.

    I would also like to note that the company is nowhere near being a pyramid scheme. Anyone who has ever taken a even a BASIC economics class could tell you that. All pyramid schemes start with one person or a small group of people. THEY NEVER HAVE A PRODUCT, NOR DO THEY INTEND TO. The founding member(s) for the top tier. They then recruit people to buy in to the second and lower tiers. If the top is generous enough and they scam enough, they might actually pay tiers two through four of a ten-tier pyramid. Vector obviously markets a product and, in fact, Cutco has been around longer than Vector.

    Just because the office manager makes a ton more than the starting rep doesn’t instantly make it a pyramid scheme. The McDonald’s cashier doesn’t make as such as the assistant manager and the assistant manager doesn’t make near as much as the company president. Yes, in Vector you DO see a small bonus in recruiting employees, but it is only a 1% bonus based on what the other person sells. The other person doesn’t make any less for being recruited, the money comes free from the company (which is making a large profit from slightly over priced knives). The reason the company does is is to reward its members for adding to the work force, but is nowhere near enough to quit selling knives and recruit members as if it were some kind of scam.

    The last thing I want to say is at it is an incredibly tough and stressful job, but it is a job that works well for a large group of people. Rather than going on just hearsay and tearing up applications because of hurt feelings, give the job a try for two weeks and see if you like it. If you add Vector to your resume, I guarantee you that you will get job offers left and right not much long after. And if you can make it to assistant manager or higher, even more doors open up. The working world knows how much effort it takes to go anywhere in this kind of business, so they put a higher respect and value to it than being a Walmart or McDonald’s manager. Don’t let a bunch of uncertified blogs written by anybody with any level of experience close down what could be e opportunity of a lifetime. If you want real information on the company, talk to the BBB and the manager running one-on-one interview.
    Opinions differ greatly between someone who works at one place and one who doesn’t work there. The one that works at place X will tell you it’s great with move benefits, while the two people that didn’t make the cut otherwise will speak ill of the place. Rather than believing what the employee of Company X or the two disgruntled rejects say, the best choice would be to read over what company X off and check their standing with BBB. You already pay for the Bereau’s services, so you might as well use them.

  72. So I got a letter in the mail today that said SELECTED high school students. Well i dropped out of highschool when I was 17, so I’m pretty sure Id be the most ideal candidate.

    The letter was pretty vague. So I googled it. Cutco appeared.

    Flashback three years ago after my bro graduated from hs he got a letter similar to mine. He went to the interview all pumped and came back disappointed because you are selling knives to friends and family. Door to door is not an option for us because SOLICITING IS ILLEGAL in my town and the ones around us. I wouldn’t use the guilt of buying the set on my family and friends.

    Basically there’s a difference between selling cars selling real estate and selling cutco. If you sell real estate or cars you already have an established office or shop of some sort. If I am 17,18,19 what are the chances I’m going to have one of those? Not likely. So what does that leave me with? Solicitation. Which is illegal in my area. So what does that leave me with? Family and friends and “referalls.” What happens after all my Family and friends either say no or buy it? I run out of customers. I get to a point where I either have to be advertising on the street and posting ads on coffee shops. But what happens when I put my phone number/contact area in a public place? I get weird and unwelcomed phone calls. What happens when I advertise with a sign on the street? I waste time and who would buy from somebody waving a sign on the street? Your going to get stuck eventually. The top sellers of vector are not just sellers they are recruiting for more pay.

    Always remember this quote when making a decision on a company.

    “Every fine tree produces fine fruit. Every worthless tree produces worthless fruit. By these fruits you will recognize these ones”

    1. I’m not sure if this quote is meant to represent the product or the opportunity, but both are extremely good.

  73. My favorite suggestion for an alternative job is selling plasma. Don’t work in a fair, well-paid and opportunity filled position as an entry level customer sales representative. Instead, sell your plasma to labs who will then have your DNA to do what they may with. Clearly solid advice 😉

  74. I’ve worked with Vector for about three weeks now, and I get that yes, it is a pyramid scheme, but I can’t say I feel exploited at all. The managers who are now making money off of me are in the position to do so because they once had to do all the work that I’m doing now. This job is also much less demeaning than my job working in a restaurant where I really DO feel scammed because I do all the work a waitress does (I’m an “assistant server”) But i get paid just a dollar above minimum wage. Also, anyone who says Cutco knives are crappy clearly don’t own any. The customers I’ve seen who have owned Cutco for 20 years or more still love it. By the way, no I’m not some person getting paid to make Cutco look more reputable. I just like my job and the money I get from it. Although I will say making sales does become addicting, as someone else said on here.

    1. “yes, it is a pyramid scheme”

      Passive income for the person who recruited you?

  75. Believe what you want, I don’t listen to haters in any area of life. I paid my way through $30k worth of private school, have run two offices (Branch & District), & have traveled to some awesome places as a Cutco rep. Started when I was 18, & have sold over 775,000 in Cutco. I have 2000+ clients who are happy & it is only a scam if you try to cut corners or happen to have a shady manager but most are not & vector boots them quick. Ok, cheers guys.

  76. > > This response is SOLELY & ENTIRELY based on my ( own ) PERSONAL EXPERIENCE with Vector Marketing.Before any jumps on my response claiming ‘slander’ or ‘lies’, please note I worked with Vector (2)..YES 2 separate times. High School & recently Fall 2013, with BOTH experiences being absolutely painful! I want to share some insight from me for the other potential persons.

    1)My 1st contact with Vector was when I was a sophomore in h.s., like alot of others have stated I received an invitation in the mail to come sit down for an interview about a sales position. EXCITED! I went in for the interview & I swear it was a circus. People were EVERYWHERE! it was nosy & very unprofessional. Nevertheless my turn came around I interviewed with the manager (he was sweet I never got a bad vibe from him DURING THE INITIAL interview).I was told I was chosen to proceed with the 90-min. interview along with about 15 other hopefuls,NO problem.Everything was fine going smoothly UNTIL he said, “All of you are responsible for purchasing the sample kit, for the appts”.(At that time 2007 the kits were $200 that we had to purchase)hmm? okay I’m thinking to myself why am I being ‘forced’ to pay $200 in order to become a sales rep for the company?

    2)My 2nd encounter with Vector was a bit more ‘colorful’.Many people may say why did you try it the 2nd time? This time I knew it would be different.WRONG,Big Time! I went through the interview & training(training was the worse 3 days of my life, not because it was unpaid but because it was useless info that didn’t need to be spread out 3 LONG DAYS) on the last day of training my manager passed out our sample kits (which were free this time around).Mid October(2013) (I can’t remember the exact date) is when I begun working with Vector, the only reason I went for the interview in the first place was because of the flexibility,$14.50/appt,& being able to chose my schedule, thinking the company had improved, but it has turned out to be a complete nightmare! My first month of appts. I had almost 40 demos, 14.50 x 40=$580, correct?
    When I would make an attempt to contact my manager about my check he would never reply, back to my texts/emails/calls/visits.NO CONTACT WHATSOEVER! That was October 2013, it is now April 2014 & I still haven’t received anything & guess what the manager is still not replying! I called corporate & now they are giving me the run around,telling me I have to resubmit the presentation forms?, when I already did that WAY BACK IN OCTOBER 2013!!

    Make your own choice, but here’s a peak into my nightmare called Vector.

  77. My brother works for them and has done very well so far at selling people the product. That being said he has alienated himself from the family, has been so brainwashed that he gave free knives to family members for Christmas with a buy from me note attached. Not even wrapped just left on the floor with little kids running around. Needless to say nobody bought from him. Also he went to a seminar in NY and apparently was coached as he called me and my mother and who knows what other people about how “fake” he’s been and to call him out on it. Even when trying to sound genuine in that conversation you can tell he was fake. If you don’t have a family or don’t care about them vector might be for you but otherwise I would stay away from this pyramid scheme

    1. whoa, this freaking stood out to me. maybe your bro should just do it on the side of a different job. theres a difference between working and being obsessed. i actually started 3 weeks ago, but yea, that kinda makes me concerned for your bro. hope he comes to his senses.

  78. Vector is a hard core scam I tried to work their with all the false promises and lies you get your knifes for Free but if you don’t sell anything within 2 weeks of your training they dismiss you the people above you make more money then you do off your sale then you do period IT IS A SCAM PERIOD.

  79. I worked at Cutco for 6 months and made over 30000$! Everyone who says is a scam is a liar! Cutco makes the bestest knives everr!!1

  80. Lou*

    You don’t even have proof that Vector is doing what you claim they are doing. What you typed on here is just a statement of your opinion and nothing more, unless you had concrete evidence. My comment is also just my opinion and nothing more, I don’t have concrete evidence and I’m not going to provide any. Every one of you who submits a comment to this article simply is stating there perception. Nobody is completely right and no one is completely wrong. There is a little bit of truth to everything but because of that, this also means the opposite, there are things that are untrue, which leads to misunderstandings, which then leads to false information or exaggerations. Also both parties – the ones that are against VECTOR/CUTCO and the ones that are for it – are a little biased towards the other: the ones that have had a great experience being a part of VECTOR have not experienced the ( or don’t have the same perception) same unpleasant experiences others have, or at least not enough to make them feel angry towards VECTOR, to the point they want to express those negative feelings; claiming that they want to help shed light on a “SCAM” that’s made up of rumor’s and truth, even though you must admit.. you’re all being a little biased. And the one’s with very unpleasant experiences, that aren’t cut out for sales, leadership, customer service or just simply don’t like it and can’t see the benefits to VECTOR; most of you haven’t had the pleasure to experience the great benefits VECTOR has to offer, like others have or you’re just not willing to put the effort or you don’t see the point or you don’t want to make sacrifices, what ever the reason, you’re also being biased. There’s good and bad to everything. If you want to go cut lawn for I guess what the guy up there said, 12 dollars an hour; you might not like it, you might do a horrible job, you may feel uncomfortable or it may just not be for you. That doesn’t necessarily mean it’s a bad job, so there’s no reason for you to express how much it sucks other than you just wanting to let it out. And it does feel good when you’re able to express yourself. I’m not saying any of you are wrong or right, and I’m not saying you all should stop expressing yourselves. I’m just sharing my opinion and hopefully it can help someone.
    By the way 🙂 I do work for VECTOR and NO!!! I’m not getting paid to type up this comment, that’s dumb but I’ll admit it would be sweet if it did cause I could make some quick cash, lol. But I’m doing this because I want to support what I’m doing and share my thoughts and experiences. So far I’ve had a lot of positive experiences and I love what I’m doing; I have had a few bad times but not enough for me to go and hate VECTOR. I knew what I was getting into when I started and yes I had read all the scam warnings about VECTOR and they’re very convincing but I wanted to see if for myself. So I went to the interview, training, and did demos and it turns out that I like all that stuff and all the responsibilities that come with it. I also have a second job at a golf course, one that the guy who wrote this article considers “real”. I love what I do but it is difficult especially if you want to be successful and if you want to reach a high level position. Like I said, in my opinion and from my experience, there is good and bad to everything; you just have to realize how far you’re willing to go and what you’re willing to endure, for what you’re passionate for or simply for what you want to do.
    To everyone who took the time to read my thoughts, you’re awesome, I don’t care if you hate, it happens lol. Thanks and yes I’m real and no! I’m not here to saturate or whatever 😛 . Everyone take care!
    ( I want everyone to know that everything I just typed is my opinion and I don’t think or am claiming it to be factual, it’s my perception)

  81. Regardless if you had a good experience or not, it’s still a scam. They target kids knowing they are vulnerable, getting lists from schools, the same ones you need to sign 10 releases to get any info on your own child. Customers need to give out referrals from unsuspected friends, family which always comes back to bight you..and regards to comparing to Mary Kay, Avon,. those customers continue to reorder monthly, yearly,& I don’t need refills on my kitchen knives, thank you. This is a pyramid scheme, and like many others, a few do great, while many don’t busting their a*s, and feel like crap. Please don’t make our youth feel any worse than they can by saying that “this will be good for them, teach them skills” They already start out with enough mistrust, and don’t need to be taught the skills of scamming. Lets get honest here and lead our youth in the right direction…remember, they are the ones who will be taking care of us/running the country when we are too old.

    1. i think you are forgetting one major point; here, ill help you. Ahem…….NO CUSTOMER HAS TO BUY!!!! every rep gets paid for the appt whether or not i make a sale. and when giving recs, if people are unsure about it, i have them give that person a quick call. i do nothing but show them the product and ask nicely for people that MIGHT be willing to make appts, everything else that happens or that they do is of their own free will, either because they liked cutco or they like me…maybe even both.

  82. I worked for Vector Marketing when I was in college, and I frankly find it highly suspicious that your son saw an ad promising “$12-20 an hour.” Every ad I’ve ever seen—and I’ve seen a lot of ads in several different states—advertises a single, specific dollar amount “base per appointment.” Mine was no different, offering $11.25 base per appointment—not bad, for 1993.

    The first summer I worked for Vector, I put in about 25 hours/week and finished the summer having made about $2,300. It was enjoyable, but it was really hard work, so I decided it wasn’t for me and that I wouldn’t go back.

    Four months later, I came home for Christmas break. I sat around doing nothing for the first couple of weeks, then realized I was going to be miserable if I went back to school with no money. I stopped by the office, grabbed some supplies, and filled two days with presentations. Since I’d been promoted four times over the summer, I was getting a pretty decent commission. I went back to school with $800 in my pocket for two days’ work—pretty darned good, for 1994.

    Given my experience over Christmas break, I decided to go back for my next summer job. That year, I didn’t work nearly as hard, maybe 20 hours/week, but my higher commissions earned me about $4,500 from mid-May through mid-August. When I received my promotion to the highest-paid level, Field Sales Manager, my district manager said he never would have expected me to make it that far. It was only through hard work and sheer tenacity that I did so.

    It wasn’t too long after this that I moved out of the country for a couple of years, then returned and got married. I never again worked anywhere approaching full time for Vector. I did work part time during my third year of college, but the demands and desires of married life led me to look for a more predictable income. Still, I have nothing bad to say about Vector; I even used the skills Vector taught me, to place out of several college classes. Twenty years later, my wife and I still absolutely LOVE our Cutco (including the shears my grandmother purchased in 1961); My parents, aunts, uncles, and in-laws still use theirs on a daily basis; and every once in a while I get a surprise commission check because one of my old customers purchased something without my knowledge.

    Does Vector work for everyone? Heck no. Only 5% of new hires ever stick it out long enough to get the point I did, and Vector couldn’t be successful if it didn’t recognize this high turnover rate and design its hiring practices accordingly. But is it a scam? Absolutely not. If 270 people per day are finding out the “truth” about Vector, I don’t blame them for doing damage control. Unfortunately, the truth and the “truth” are often quite different, and this situation would be no exception.

  83. Well, truth me told, I hated every minute of working at Vector. My manager was the the biggest A-hole. He used to call my cell phone multiple times a day, hassling me to make appointments and close sales, even one a day when I was in bed with a fever. The only reason why I made it was the fact that I knew a lot of rich people (not 1%, though) and restaurant owners. I cheated by selling to businesses instead of individuals; I had the owners place the order under their personal name, rather than as their business. But given how my boss was treating me, it was either cheat or have a big red “terminated” mark on my employment record. I’ve long since quit that job, and I hope my past boss rots in hell.

    I suppose there was one redeeming part of this sorry excuse for a job. I won some kind of a raffle, and they put me on a cruise. It was an old, no-frills ship, and knowing Vector, I had to share my cabin with another Vector dude. He was OK, maybe kind of shy, but man, did he snore! Anyway, it turned out that there were also some Vector girls on the ship. I got so much tail on that cruise, it’s un-freaking-believable!

  84. You don’t have to have to be good at sales to be good at this job. We teach everybody how to be successful during training! I’m sorry your son didn’t stick with it and was unable to learn the type of skills that are needed in any professional business environment. I would like to mention that our knives are made out of high carbon stainless steel. You were right about the 440A though! Not sold in stores though, it saves our customers 10%-40% on the price because we ship directly to the customer. However, after 10 years, the knives do need sharpening, and we understand that so we do it for free. In fact sir, if you sat through my presentation and got all of the correct facts, You would buy Cutco :). If somebody is complaining about unpaid time, that sadness me. The only reason people should attend weekly meeting is to advance their skills and become a better person overall! We don’t just talk, we educate. I don’t believe that there are tricks to selling Cutco. They’re all given during training, but over time, I’ve found that people forget. Sometimes people change what they were taught and those people don’t do so well. I’d like to make a quick point at the difference in responses. All Cutco workers sound educated, others do as well, but anybody that works at Cutco is taught how to effectively work with others. Go us lol
    Regardless, no matter what anybody says, I love my job 🙂 I’ve learned so much from this company and was able to move up very quickly into management. For those who pay attention to the real facts, there is no other opportunity out there like working for Vector. Give it a shot!

  85. Haha, I started to burst out laughing when you mentioned,

    “The company also has cool things like trips to Cancun and scholarships. Wow, what a great job for a college kid!”,

    because I’m 19, a college student, and I’ve been with vector for about 13 months. And in my 2nd month was when they had the January incentive push to Cancun, which I WORKed my butt off to win and attended the following April :)Puerto Vallarta is next, can’t wait to see the hidden beach thing.

    1. A guy at my office sold so much his first month (January, I think?) he got to do to the Dominican Republic. It’s pretty great

  86. I worked for Vector about 6 years ago. My manager told me I should stop talking to my Grandmother if she couldn’t afford a set of knives. The office closed without any notice (on a Sunday night) and it took numerous calls to Vector to get my last check.
    I have a set of knives and don’t like them at all.

  87. Went to an interview for them a few years ago. Showed up and 15 other people were in the room
    . They said they were so busy that had to make it a group interview (even though I was told I was having an interview one on one with a manager). I had a feeling during the interview it was too good to be true. He told us about the $18 bucks an hour, cruise trips, vacation packages they offer, so I had a sneaky feeling this was a scam. They guy asked me a question once and I said about 3 sentences. Then after the interview he called everyone in individually and told me I was one of the best and they wanted me. Even though I said 3 sentences ! He gave me a packet of information and said told me to show up for training the next Monday. As I was stuck in traffic on the ride home I browsed through the packet he gave me, only to find out that I had to bring a check for
    200 dollars with me to the training. I immediately pulled over and through the packet in the first garbage can I saw …. The funny thing is they just called me this morning , 3 years later asking if I would like to come in for an interview. I acted very excited and enthused and said I would come in Tuesday. Wish I could see the look in the guys face when I don’t show up! Haha. I have 3 friends who also fell victim
    To this scam too. Stay away!

    1. i started 3 weeks ago and i never had to pay $200. after training, i did have the option to buy the sample kit that i show to people for $84 (which i did buy of my own free will). what state do you live in? im also wondering if it might have been a false vector company.

  88. Ok, After reading several laughs I must reply.
    1. If the manager was stating it honestly in his advertising he should have stated per presentation.
    2. If you actually did your homework and price quality Cutlery you would see that paying 50 – 100 for a knife that is guaranteed is normal.
    3. Any college student that is looking for interpersonal communication skills can tell you that you should be paying Vector marketing for that kind of experience.

    For those who are posting here that think you can gain experience in industry by working fast food, lawn care, or other sweat jobs in the summer good luck with that.
    Direct sales is some of the hardest work one can ever choose. You have to prepare to hear “No” a lot.
    If you are willing to stick with it you will learn how to sell not just Cutco, but more importantly yourself.
    I am an engineer, and have been for over 20 years. I worked for 3 summers selling Cutco while I was in school.
    I would not trade the experience or my Cutco for any other.

    For those who pontificate about Electronic Scams and covering for them, stop typing and get the facts. Any town that has had Vector working in them has a BBB and a Local college campus. Our office had been in good community standing for over 12 years.
    Are there people who liars and deceiver? Sure there are. Just like any other business or political office.

    Don’t take others word or mine. Check it for yourself.

  89. I worked for Vector a few years ago. While it IS possible to make money there, you have to jump through hoops and really commit yourself 100% to the idea and the company, no matter what. After the multiple days of unpaid training you go through, you’re also expected to come in for unpaid weekly team meetings (sometimes several times a week), unpaid phone dumps (again, sometimes several times a week), and unpaid business seminars. I made some money in the time I worked for Vector but the amount of unpaid hours really got to me, especially since we weren’t being reimbursed for travel.

  90. And, to add to this, seeing as most of you think I’m some false advertising person hired by Vector to talk them up… Look me up on Facebook. My profile picture is me, in a suit, in the snow, in New York, where the company flew me, FOR FREE.

    Idiots wouldn’t know a good job if it slapped you in the face. Which, it basically is. Seriously, go to an interview, and see if they don’t change your mind.

    1. Psh, some people still wouldnt see it bro. we ARE the evolved man. lmfao

  91. There is so much wrong with this post, I don’t even know where to begin….

    You aren’t very good at grammar for one, but it wasn’t unreadable.

    But your opinions, Christ, this is like reading an anti-atheist over-catholicized website. Your facts are so wrong, it’s like hearing a high school kid who never reads the news argue about politics.

    Where do I begin…

    I have been working with Vector for over a year, and am just shy of $20,000 in career personal sales, and the majority of that is in the past 3 or 4 months. I did not take the job seriously when I first started, which I regret.

    I have traveled all around the country with this company, all paid for by them, but we’ll cover that in just a moment.

    I am going to run my own branch of the company at age 19 next summer, and will be able to put on my resume:

    “I ran my own branch of a multi-million dollar corporation at age 19, interviewed and trained dozens of new sales representatives, and sold thousands of dollars of product.”

    And that is being very modest.

    Enough about me though, let’s break down your post, shall we?

    First of all, you said:
    “The company also has cool things like trips to Cancun and scholarships. Wow, what a great job for a college kid!”

    This passive air of sarcasm really shouldn’t be present in this sentence, because this sentence is entirely true.

    In my one year of working here, I have traveled (at ZERO cost to myself, I might add) to New York, Denver, and South Padre Island, TX. I will be going to Puerto Vallarta, Mexico this coming spring break, and possibly Rome the next summer, all on the company’s dime, because I am very good at what I do.

    I, personally, haven not won a scholarship, but I personally know 5 different recipients of the Vector Marketing scholarship. They worked their ass off, and earned a scholarship.

    No, my results are not typical, but nor are they nonexistent.
    It’s not the company’s fault your son was awful at sales.

    You said:
    “The scam with Vector Marketing and Cutco Knives is that you won’t make $12-20 an hour. That is the base rate for an appointment but most sales people do not take the base rate because that is like saying ‘I am inept.'”

    Seriously, self-contradiction? “Yes, that’s the pay, but you don’t make the pay.” Regardless of whether or not someone sells a lot, that amount IS guaranteed to them. If they suck at their job, you are correct, they admit to sucking at their job by submitting for base pay. But they still get paid.

    Company average order size is $250. IF someone buys something, they will spend, on average, that amount. Company average closing rate is 60-70%, but let’s low-ball it, and say 60%. If someone does 10 demos, they will get a base pay (let’s say it’s at $15/hr) of $150. If they do company average, that means they sold (60% of 10 x $250)$1500. Starting commission rate is 10%. That person, if they were company average, and just starting out, would make $150 as well.

    BUT, promotions happen very quickly. After $1000 in sales, you get promoted to 15% commission. So, factoring that in, an AVERAGE person would have just made $175.

    But we’re still not done. Say the same person did that for another week. They’re now at $3000 in sales. Welcome to 20% commission. Their next ten average demos will earn them $300

    An again, they continue for a few weeks. They pass the 25% commission mark (6k) and the 30% commission mark (10k in sales.) now, those same ten appointments will earn them $450.

    Using the math of ten demonstrations a week (which, let’s keep in mind, is only about 20 hours of work) an average person would take 6-7 weeks to hit 10k in sales. After 6 weeks, you are literally tripling your starting pay. Once you get to 40, 45, and 50% commission (at 20k, 25k, and 30k in sales, respectively) you are making a silly amount of money as a college kid. This job is the best decision I’ve ever made.

    You wen’t on to say:
    “You also must spend $200 on knives. Have you ever seen a college kid who needed a $200 knife set? Or have you ever seen a college kid who cooks? Me either. They could of just give out demos to their employees. That is at least 10 appointments (or 2 weeks of work) for a new employee to break even.”

    Wrong. Earlier, you just talked about an hour long demo, which is typically the approximation of a demo length. To be generous, let’s double that time. We’ll say a demo is 2 hours long, including driving time, and extra talking.

    How in the hell do you do math? 10 appointments is definitely NOT 2 weeks of work. 10 appointments is 20 hours, and that’s being generous. I don’t know what job you expect a great pay at only working 10 hours a week. If someone works a typical 40 hour week, like a summer schedule, they would pay this off in 3 or 4 days.

    Oh, and by the way, Vector doesn’t require the new reps to purchase their sample kits of knives. They are rented out, for FREE. They can CHOOSE to buy their kit, which is not $200, but is $85. I bought mine in the first weekend.

    “You are using the niceness of your family. How can an uncle say no to a niece? That is how Cutco gets you to buy their knives. Most people don’t need a new set of knives (most people just need to sharpen theirs).”

    Wrong, again. Most people definitely need a better knife set. Shitty knives break all the time, and dull insanely fast. And, funny how you forgot to mention that Cutco’s “Forever Guarantee” covers, not only free sharpening, but free replacement of damaged knives. They ship out over 192,000 replacements/repaired knives per year. I literally just visited the factory in Olean, NY, and asked about that stat.

    Oh, and yes, you start with people you know, and if they buy, awesome, they just helped out a college kid, AND got a killer set of knives. Win-win situation. But after a while, you run out of people you personally know, and are exclusively working on the list of recommendations you have built up through each demo. You end up working with distant friends of friends of friends of friends, way down the line. It is not trying to guilt people into helping you.

    “There is nothing special about their kitchen knives. Yes Ka-bar is one of my favorite knife brands but Cutco kitchen knives are overpriced. You are better off buying a professional knife set with the same amount of money.”

    My goodness, you really don’t do your research.

    Let’s price compare, shall we?

    Wusthof knives, of Germany are one of the top selling fine cutlery brands. Their medium set: $3200, occasionally on sale for about $2,000.

    Shun-Kaji knives, of Japan, are again, a very popular fine cutlery set. Their medium sized set: upwards of $4,000.

    J.A. Henckels: $2-3,000.

    And, drum roll please….

    Cutco’s medium sized set (18-pieces, almost identical in content to each of these other examples): $1,165.

    Oh, and I find it funny when you say these knives are nothing special, considering they are the highest rated brand of cutlery in the entire planet. Rated higher that Shun, higher than Wusthof, higher than Henckel’s. Boom.

    “You are not reimbursed for travel expenses. Yup, if you drive across the state, you won’t be paid for it and, for in-home sales, you will do a lot of driving.”

    Wrong. As someone mentioned in previous comments, they don’t take taxes out of your paychecks, but anything business-related is a tax deductible business expense.

    You can write off $.50 per mile driven, just keep a log of it. You can write off you sample kit purchase (if you bought it.) you can write off meals when you are out and about on the job. You can write off food you purchase to cut up with the knives in demonstrations.

    I drove 180 miles from my college to my hometown (from ABQ, NM, to Bloomfield, NM) to visit my girlfriend. I did a demo for her parents while I was there, and I wrote off the mileage, successfully.

    Math time. 180 miles x 2 (for both directions) x .5 (50 cents per mile) = $180 tax deduction.

    Huh, weird, my gas for both directions totaled to about $50. It’s like the company is so good to me, and actually wants to save me money. Too good to be true? By your logic, “Yes, it’s definitely a scam.”

    I am going to pay $0 on taxes this year because I kept track of my expenses very well.

    All in all, no, my results are not typical, but I’m only in the 80th percentile, if that. There are literally thousands of people working for Vector who do much more than I do with this job.

    There are tens of thousands of people working for this company that actually LOVE their job. I apologize that your son was not one of them.

    Please, do your research before you try to cry “wolf.”

  92. Oh my gosh, I was doing some keyword research and i stumbled upon “vector marketing scam”…and found your site. I’m 46 and when I was in college, I was roped into selling cutco knives (vector marketing). My major at MU was Business Administration with an emphasis in Marketing…so I was able to get my University to actually award me 3 credit hours in direct marketing for selling those knives for a semester!
    It was the BEST experience ever. It taught me the skills of hard selling and those knives are AMAZING quality. My mom, all her friends, and myself still RAVE over those knives. They are sharper than ever and cut through stuff like butter.

    You have to work your tail off to get to 50% commissions and few make it that far….hence, Kevin Gardinier, our recruiter, was VERY rich. But I don’t care. This is the PERFECT business model for vector marketing and is it a scam? It depends on how you look at it. I personally don’t call it one. Because if I would have stuck with it and didn’t give up, I would have made money. But only about 5% stick with it.


  93. I started selling in july currently at 15k in sales and am in training for management. If you are charismatic and committed it is in fact very easy you just need to learn the tricks. The longer you stay the more tricks you learn and the easier it becomes.

  94. I hear the knives do not need to be purchased. They can be if you want to keep them but if you give them back you pay nothing for them.

    Also in reference to this:That is 30-40 new employees earning $12-20 an hour a week! Again, this sounds like either the company is 1.) a non-profit, 2.) super bad at finance, or 3.) a scam… the company says it has annual sales of over $200 million and is based in 250+ locations… if a company is that big, I’m sure they know how to manage their finances, so it is probably option 3.

    If they are as big as you say they probably make enough to be able to afford it.

    Lastly when talking about these knives being overpriced. Prices for other high quality sets reach 3,000-4,000 dollars. My parents bought a set from a neighborhood sales rep for only about 1,000 and we used to have a 3,000 dollar Wustof set until we got Cutco cause it was plain better.

    Not trying to start a fight just want everyone to not be misinformed from either side.

  95. Can’t be too bad see people on ebay fighting for top bid on ebay. One set is selling for more then what its worth. I sold it in 2008 sold over 3k in sale. Not easy.

  96. when I worked there in 2010 the knife set was 250 just for me to beable to start showing. if you do not live in an area with money like I did you will go no where. I took the job to help my family with bills but doesn’t happen when no one in that area could afford a knife set even if they used there whole months pay. Yes there are payment plans but that only helps so much.

  97. The amount of misinformation in this thread and in the original post is unbelievable. Yes, I work for vector. No, I’m not a fake “good review”. But I realize saying that doesn’t do much. Whatever. But the lies here make you lose all credibility. I did not pay for my starter set. As an independent contractor, NOTHING is mandatory. Really, the only “mandatory” time I have to spend in the office is a meeting once a week. Which takes about 2 hours. Other than that, if I do demos, I get paid my base pay.

    You don’t have to drive tons. You can do virtual demos where you talk on the phone with the customer and walk them through an online demo. So shut up about travel expenses. I don’t think you people understand what an independent contractor is? They don’t have to pay you for training. So stop complaining. (No rhyme intended)

    The receptionist was mean? Walmart employees are rude sometimes. Does that make walmart a scam? That’s people. People are rude. This is life. Learn to deal with it. It does not mean that the company trains people to be meanie-faces.

    You think the knives are expensive? You don’t think they’re good quality? Cool. Your opinion. I’m glad you have it. But that has NOTHING to do with it being a scam. You people are the equivalent to conspiracy theorists. You use pseudo-intellectualism and make claims when you are ignorant to what you are talking about. Know how I know you’re ignorant? Because you’ve spewed complete lives. So your credibility is shot.

    As for “revolving door”, no, this job isn’t easy. It’s not for everyone. Some people only make the base pay so the quit because it might not be killer money. But the job isn’t designed to live off the base pay. That’s a safety net for when you have a shitty week. Those who sell make money.

    Finally, learn about business and business models before you talk about them. People throw around “pyramid scheme” and challenge the structure of this type of business. Clearly you don’t understand them. It’s comparable (VERY closely actually) to Aflac. And I would know because I do that too. Educate yourself before entering discussion, people.

  98. Vector MArketing called me yesterday they said they recieved the application i have made(I never applied whatsoever) .,,, well the chick(Shelly 2812018386 sugarland office) that called me have a cool voice so i got carried away and she told me that the starting salary will be $16.00 (im here in Texas), $16 bucks for starting in texas is damn high for a no experience guy. She told me that I will have an interview nextday meet this (Ms Kristian Aszaal).

    At first i have no idea what company Vector is, so after the call I checked Vector online, then i see selling fuckin knives, thats bullcrap. and too many lawsuit under them about unpaid salary, how can i trust them,.

    I already have been ripped off once buy a pyramid scam, so there is not gonna be a second one,.


    What I dont believe that cutco make good knives, in my experience
    Cutco knives suck dirt. I use Calphalon Knives set and still way cheaper than that crappy expensive cutco.

  99. Back in high school my marketing teacher sent these out to everyone in the class. I received the letter and gave it a shot. It’s not so much the exploitation of friends and family that got me to rebuke Vector but more of their “interview process”.

    I drive to a random commercial area that’s somewhat sketchy and not bustling with activity. I make my way into the designated waiting area and wait with a handful of other anxious and eager teens. We are all waived into this room where they pretty much demo us the product and show some VHS or something regarding the product (basically a live infomercial).

    Now here’s the kicker, during the session two “senior” members would walk around the session and pick out people and ask them to leave. Why? Because they “didn’t show enough interest”. I have never seen anything like that in an interview session before especially one for 30 or so people. It wasn’t private, so other members saw you get pulled away. It was disheartening to see some girls crying because of this and all because they didn’t stare at the session for 90 minutes straight.

    I ended up making the cut and was pulled into a separate room where I waited for the “manager” to talk to me. He asked me some questions regarding college, made some scribbles on the form I filled out earlier in the evening and said I could earn credits and they would be transferable. I just went along with it since I was pretty much overloaded with information.

    Before I left, I had a few members approach me and try to coerce me into doing it and all the benefits such as the group vacations etc.

    I believe I received about 2-3 calls the following day and then 2-3 the next day asking if I wanted in. I kindly declined and was still pressured into signing up with the person on the phone mentioning that “I’m missing out on a great opportunity”.

    Needless to say I got a real summer job that year and ended up doing more for my career than I could have selling knives to my friends and family.

  100. This nonsense has been around for years and years. This is 2013 so who the fuck wants somebody coming to their home to show them knives? If you are dumb enough to take a job like this you’re better off stabbing yourself with one of the knives.

  101. I do not nor have not worked for them but I must say that jobs like this are simply not for everyone they do best with those who know a lot of people or own their own business where u could demonstrate them or people who don’t mind driving around a lot

  102. legit, i wont waste too much time but you have no idea what you are saying because 99.9% of everything you said is completely false. you don’t pay for the kit anymore, you do get paid the base pay if sales aren’t higher, it’s not hard to sell, cutco is better than any knives, compare and contrast if you but you wont find anything like it, you start with your people to get recomendations because your not cold calling or going door to door, i started with ten i have 180 i still haven’t called yet, everything you do, gas wise and expese for the trips to conferences, or food for presentations are 100% tax deductible. the thing is that vector is the only job that pushes you to actually work for your money instead of getting paid the same as the average guy that slacks off on his shift, plus if you want to look at phone times and appointment times as an hourly shift, think 3 hours phoning twice a week so 6, 15 appointments a week for example(they last 45 minutes to an hour) think 13.50 per hour( 283.50 flat weekly) now think the average sale being $250, which it is nationally, 60% sales ratio which it is, at 20% commision(once you sell $3000, which i did on my second week, some did earlier, it goes up 5% from 10, once you get to 30% the next is 40% then 45% then 50%) you made $450 that week as oppose to $283.50, now multiply that for a month, you made $1,800 that month, working 21 hours, not even full time, you make your schedule and if you want to you can do 1 appointment a week but you wont get paid much because you’re lazy and thats when you go online and post these blogs or videos saying we’re a scam…

  103. I hate seeing comments from people that are very negative. Especially those who did not even gave it a shot or just to take a look. If you don’t want to be successful in life, then don’t drag everyone else to your nonsense. You are just a hater because you cannot do it! If you don’t keep an open mind, then your brain will become rotten and you will be stuck to whatever you have right now for the next five to ten years. If you grasp opportunity and change what you are doing it might get you somewhere else better than your past five years. In short, if you are doing what you have been doing five years ago, guess what you will do in the next five years?

  104. I love how the people here accuse Vector of having hires in the comment section. That’s kind of sad, because it opens the door for every pro-Vector post to be “paid content.” That’s bullshit. I work for Vector. I’ve worker in sales before. The model, all of Vectors policies, they make sense. Can you get screwed over? Yeah. Most sales jobs can screw a person. Can you make bank money? I can’t say from experience, but I think you can. There is no scam to Vector, only your standard corporate bullshit that one finds in every company. Vector is no worse than GM, Proctor Gamble, Coke, McDonalds, and in fact, probably engages in less disinformation than the companies above. All in all, people need to calm their tits. You’re doing serious damage to a company because a) you failed as a rep, b) you are gaining your facts from poorly written comments/articles on the Internet (which is always stupid), or c) you don’t actually understand anything about direct sales/independent sales. No matter your reason, take the fallacious logic elsewhere. There are plenty of reasons to hate Vector/Cutco, so pick one that isn’t full of shit.

  105. I have a job interview with Vetco tomorrow. I decided to do some research on the company so I checked out their website & it looked promising but when I was typing in “Cutco,” “marketin scam” was higlighted. After some thought I’ve read a couple of blogs including this one. I’ll see what it’s bout tomorrow I guess. Hopefully it’s not so bad cause I could use the money.

  106. I guess I should reply to some of these accusations.

    “Vector is a scam. Man, I was so happy and excited that I got the job. But things felt really shady. So when I googled it, scam was everywhere!”

    And if you Google “Black people smell like” what are the first auto fills? Yes there are ALOT of links about how it’s a scam, the problem is that they don’t know what the word “scam” means and are only complaining since they sucked at the job.

    “Real people talked about their experience. The people so nice and crap, but their all BS. While my family was waiting for me at the interview, which took like 4 hours, the ladies in the front desk were calling SO many people telling them the same thing, to quit their job and work for vectors.”

    They don’t tell people to quit their jobs, in fact you can still work a normal job and work at Vector as well because the way it works is very flexible since you choose when you work.

    ” The place didn’t look really business type.”

    Ok? How is that indicative of anything.

    “Also, manager gave a really long and boring presentation. He also said that their too high quality to advertise on TV. They were degrading other companies.”

    Um well for one that’s a common tactic in any advertising campaign. Watch commercials every other commercial is degrading to other companies because they’re trying to compete and convince their clients that their product is superior. Secondly Vector doesn’t do that to other comnpanies unless they’re a cheap brand or some knives that are sold on TV and change the name of the company constantly so as to avoid having to fulfill warranty obligations. In fact part of the Presentation is to build up the reputation of other companies and you’re told about them during training. Either way if you don’t convince your customer that your product is better than your competitors you’re not doing your job as a salesperson.

    “Training is unpaid,”

    How is this a criticism? This to me is the most absurd criticism of all. I know fast food restaurants and ice scream shops pay you for training, but really if you were going to work there anyway wouldn’t you show up to training whether or not it was paid? Training only goes on for 3 days, 5 if you include adv training, you work many more days than simply 3 or 5.

    “and they don’t tell you a lot of other things about the job.”

    Like what? It’s difficult? Every single objection a customer may come up with? Honestly I felt that in training they told me everything I would need to know for the job.

    “They try to lure young college and high school student into working. It was a complete waste of my day. Vector is complete BS. They are evil and are only using your hard work, to feed their greed of money. Don’t waste your time.”

    ….Yah it’s called a job. You work hard for a company and then they pay you back in money. Unless you’re a proponent of the Socialist idea of Wage-slavery this is fine. You’re just taking something and wording it differently so that it’s negative. For example, I could call what you’re saying a person expressing their opinion, or some moron who wants to slander a company because they stopped at the first sign of negativity.

    ” Get a real job. Their cons. Someone should sue them.”

    People have sued them and honestly I hope they do again since every kid gets paid out of the lawsuit 😛 But the lawsuits weren’t for anything shady like not paying kids, it was more like they violated some obscure labor laws and had to change it up.

    “Scam or not, my boyfriend has recently been ‘hired’ by Vector and I’m so sick of hearing how great he thinks the knives are. The company is manipulative. No matter what, it’s wrong to use the people who are close to you to gain pity money. A student looking for a part-time job should find a job in which the customers go to them, not them going to the customers.”

    This is the most legitimate complaint I’ve heard and this is what was hardest for me to get over, I didn’t like the system of reaching out to people and trying to offer them a product, I am one of those people who thinks “If I didn’t wake up in the morning and thought to myself that I needed something, why would I go out and buy it simply because a salesperson told me to?”.

    In reality this isn’t really pity money, the reason they use close relatives and family members is because they need to break down the barrier of distrust people have for salesmen, especially those who come to them along with the discomfort the seller may have being new and all. To remind you this stuff is also really expensive, on some of these orders people shell out a thousand dollars. When was the last time you went up to your parents, much less anyone else you know, and asked them for a thousand dollars and they said yes? Or hell even less than that like around 400$? At best you might just be able to ask for the cheapest product on the catalog for a measily 33$. But people shell out alot more money than simply 33$ or more often than not don’t buy anything even if they know you. People pay alot for these things not because their friends son is selling them, but because they’re a high quality product.

  107. Everyone that says this is a scam is a fucking idiot. Just because they or their child sucked at it and didnt make shit doesnt mean that it is a scam. I have worked there the past two summers and in the first summer I made around 2 grand and this summer I made over 10k and had a 20k push. Anyone can succeed in Cutco as long as they practice the presentation and get good at asking for recs. Most people that bitch about and quit did around 3 demos. Training sucks but it is necessary. 3 demos a day at $15 a demo is $45 a day regardless of sale for 4 hours of work (including Phone time). 3 of my last 4 paychecks have been over $2000 which is more than my parents make(this will not happen your first summer on the job). There is nothing like getting a $3600 paycheck (before I hit 50%) in the mail and telling all your friends to suck it because they thought Cutco was a scam or they were too scared to call people. The fact is- Cutco is the best cutlery on the market and the best cutlery that EVER will be because of the quality and the guarantee. If you know how to show the customer this you can make big money. I just graduated from high school and had no intentions of going to college for financial reasons but now I leave in a few days to continue my education because of a scholarship Vector awarded to me. Cutco changed my life and solidified my resume and it is sad that so many people fail at it. For all you pussies who didnt make shit I have a few questions-
    1. How many demos did you do?
    2. Did you follow the manual?
    3. How many phone calls did you make a week?
    4. Did you run out of recommendations?
    5. Why did you quit?
    Email me at with your answers and any other excuses and I will tell you exactly why you failed at the job. If you have any questions feel free to email me too.

  108. I recently quit vector marketing because it was too ridiculous. I worked for them for about a month until i realized that I was losing money rather then making money. First of all you don’t get paid for training but I didnt complain because I was desperate for a job. Also you dont get compensated for going to peoples houses. I was promised 16.50 per demo, which you set yourself, and I noticed my checks were always short. My very last check was only $93 which is $40 shorter then what it should have been. By the time this check came I had already quit. I tried to get in contact with my manager to discuss my small
    checks and he never answered or called back. Also I was
    supposed to get paid off those that I had recommmended when I first started and never recieved that money. I’ve been trying to get in contact with my manager but he’s literally ignoring my calls. I will go to the office myself and demand my money. Many students take this job because they are desperate for money. I’m telling you from experience this job is bullshit. I do not recommend anyone work for them. I will never work for them again. This job is literally on the same level as stripping to me. Only do it if your absolutely desperate.

  109. Lmfao. You people on here are funny. First off this site is made from some kids mommie who is upset her baby didnt make anything of himself. Unless you have actually gone to an interview and finished would you really know what you are taking about. Cutco is not a scarm neither is vector, vector is a marketing aspect of cutco. Yes vector does look for younger people they also look for older black white brown yellow green, college some college no college. IT IS A SALES JOB what do you sorry lazy people think happens in sales, you sale to people. Why start with friends and family according to you people its to scam everybody well you start with people you know becasue it gets easier and easier each time you do it. You think any major or intellegent company would allow a trainnee to handle their loyal customers? Read what is given. Thats what the job ask of you. Read… if you dont sell you will get paid base pay. In order to protect themselves from lazy workers looking for a handout if you have 3 demos no sales they look to help you find why sales are not being made. Everything is explained to you during trainning, where you not listening? As far a cheaply made and ordinary it is obvious that person has never seen one. An fir the prices 1. You can make payments 2. The knives are not hundreds of dollars the most use knife is only $33. Dont try to blame cutco for you not making anything of yourself. You cant sell you cant sell. That your fault and yours alone. As a sales rep you are your company so a 17 yr old kid working for vector can use that on his resume and never look back… my advice would be dont blame someone who gave you a shit because you cant shoot.

  110. Look I work for Vector right now. I’m 17 and straight out of high school. When I got the call I thought it sounded a little too good to be true but figured I would hear them out. What they do is a group interview to kinda relax you while they do a power point. Then when that’s done they take one by one with the manager to pressure you into the job that’s exactly what my manager. They don’t make you pay for the sample anymore but its just like any sales company you’re presentation is designed to pressure people into buying. There is literally two pages worth of explanations that I have to memorize word for word that is “designed for you to succeed in selling the product.” Basically they want you to take advantage of relative’s and neighbor’s kindness. In my opinion the stuff is over priced but pretty everything is nowadays. Personally I don’t like the job because its your typically sales job and I wouldn’t recommend it to anyone.

  111. So I found this job through an email from snagajob about two weeks ago and instantly researched it after I scheduled my interview for the next day. I did read all of the bad experiences people had an I also read the (maybe not honest but who really knows for sure) good experiences. I decided that it can’t hurt to give it a try because, why not? They clearly explained the job and what I would be doing and I wound up getting the job. I did go through the three day not paid training (which was a bit uncomfortable but whatever it’s over so it’s okay). I learned a lot. I wasn’t brainwashed I learned about knives and a bit how to sell. My first weekend I sold about $800 in cutco (which is harder to sell than I thought even though its a great product). Some people don’t sell anything in their first weekend and some people sell a lot more than I did I was above average. I had my first advanced training yesterday and I’m still unsure if I like the job. I like the money though. In the area I live it’s impossible to get hired (I’ve been applying for over a year to everywhere I can find). I like that I’m getting experience so I can get hired for another job. Since getting appointments can be hard, (I’m being turned down by even people I know well) I am looking for a second job since you make your own schedule doing this so you can work it around what you have going on. It’s a nice job to gain experience and its flexible. Although the company doesn’t really want you collecting base pay, you can and should still be happy about that income as long as you try to make more than base pay. I’m not completely sure about this job yet, as I’ve only done 6 appointments and have 2 more today, but I do encourage people to try it on their own and if you don’t like it, oh well! It’s not for everyone like others said. And try not to put as much pressure on yourself as you fell necessary because it is hard to sell during these times. Your manager should be proud of you no matter what you sell as long as you try, so if you have a manager that isn’t like that and you feel is pressuring and is making you stressed, don’t take the job at that office. If you have another office you can work at, try it. If not, oh well at least you gave it a shot. You won’t know if its a good job for you unless you try. (: good luck to those of you who give it a try and good luck to those looking for jobs elsewhere.

  112. To be completely honest I love working for vector. It is a great job, and its a great opportunity to be able to make your communication skill ten times better. Better yet it has built my resume entirely to a whole other level. I have recently graduated high school and I was looking for a job. I didn’t even look for vector. A friend recommended me, yes and now I know I am doing great. My first week of being there I sold the biggest set that vector marketing has to offer. Its actually called the “ultimate set” and I thought it was a piece of cake. I’ve been working there for three weeks and now I enjoy the fact that I can go to an appointment to meet a new people everyday and to be honest I go to make friends, not customers. Why would they scam me or customers? Cutco knives are very high quality and forever guaranteed. Also they might not take taxes out, but to be for real in the initial training, they did tell you that there is three things that taxes will be taken out on and here it is: sales, gas, and business. They clearly state in the training that it is your responsibility to calculate your taxes so when tax time comes around it is your responsibility to get that turned into Vector. So practically, your getting reimbursed for gas, what was deducted from a sale(CPO), and any other things that was connected to help or provide for you while you are working with Vector. This website is the scam, not vector. So, where ever the information is being thrown or most “factual” they are wrong and actually need to get their facts straight.

  113. Vector is a scam. Man, I was so happy and excited that I got the job. But things felt really shady. So when I googled it, scam was everywhere! Real people talked about their experience. The people so nice and crap, but their all BS. While my family was waiting for me at the interview, which took like 4 hours, the ladies in the front desk were calling SO many people telling them the same thing, to quit their job and work for vectors. The place didn’t look really business type. Also, manager gave a really long and boring presentation. He also said that their too high quality to advertise on TV. They were degrading other companies. Training is unpaid, and they don’t tell you a lot of other things about the job. They try to lure young college and high school student into working. It was a complete waste of my day. Vector is complete BS. They are evil and are only using your hard work, to feed their greed of money. Don’t waste your time. Get a real job. Their cons. Someone should sue them.

  114. Scam or not, my boyfriend has recently been ‘hired’ by Vector and I’m so sick of hearing how great he thinks the knives are. The company is manipulative. No matter what, it’s wrong to use the people who are close to you to gain pity money. A student looking for a part-time job should find a job in which the customers go to them, not them going to the customers.

  115. While i can’t vouch for Vector, The knives are the best, but expensive. My girlfriend in 1962 purchase the full kitchen set of knives, pots and skillets, cooking set of spoons, potato masher, pancake turners. I was shocked to find out what she paid and financed when we got married in 1963. I soon realized the value though after we paid them off. We have been married for a little over 50 years and still have and use every day the FULL original sets. Only one knife had it’s tip broken when one of my 4 sons was breaking ice with it a chip the tip off. I have since purchased numerus sets for wedding gifts. They will remeber you for the rest of their married years. Thanks, Matt

  116. For one… you do get paid 1 of 2 ways, Incentive pay which is a percentage of how much you’ve sold or base pay, whatever amount of pay per hour/demo… you get paid by which ever amount is higher. For two… they have you start demos with your family and friends so you can work on how you do your demos and practice and you do get paid for them. For three…you do NOT have to pay for a set to do demos. They give you an option to buy them but you do NOT have to. Fourth … they arent required to give you a “lunch” break because they arent paying you for the training. And lastly…. I dont know who you people have been hearing all of these negative things about this company from but they are the #1 too rated knives. Of course there are better knives out there but these are awesome sets. If you dont like the company… dont buy anything from them. And for your children that you told not to work for them because its a “scam” youre going to be the reason why they dont get good experience with communication, sales, team work, competition, and a great pay. If you really had a problem with the CEO and had/have proof of them deleting or faking posts why dont you bring it up with them? Not cower behind the internet.

  117. Wow….. “They don’t pay for your gas, it’s a scam!” Well yah, I assume when you drive to any normal job they don’t pay for your gas either. I’ve also heard “They don’t pay you for training!” well yah, because generally YOU pay for training. You go to college, you pay for classes, you go to public schools because they are free (or what now, are they a scam too because they don’t pay for your parents gas or for your school supplies?) if anything you should be lucky that the job doesn’t require you to pay for training. If this is what you’re reading then just stop reading the complaint; they’re idiots.

    Now I’m not saying it’s not shady, I work for them and all. For one there is no longer any security deposit so you don’t have to pay for the knives but you used to (even then it was refundable so if you wanted to you could just quit and get your money back, something unheard of in scams). But the reason they’re shady is the way they work, they get a college kid and get him/her to go around selling overpriced knives because people will sympathize with them. The first thing that it says in the manual to do is not talk about kitchenware but to talk about yourself and how much you need the income. Other than that all the kid does is learn and grow, get good at marketing. This isn’t fake or anything, it’s accredited by many organizations like freakin’ DECA, but it’s manipulative. Essentially, this is very useful experience for the seller, it allows them to gain skills and money (probably why it’s so overpriced) selling some product which for one gives them some income and two gives them good experience for leaving to get a better job. So what the real loser out of all of this are the unfortunate people who buy it, it’s a pretty ok product that lasts a long time and if people didn’t research the topic beforehand then they might even think it’s the best, so they think it is and they feel it is, but if you’re a professional chef they’re a joke (which is why they let it slip out for a moment that chefs don’t buy Cutco).

  118. Are you serious? First of all, you don’t need to by anything from vector. Second, you don’t choose which form of pay to take. You get payed whatever ends up being higher. Third, you don’t exploit your family. You present to your family and friends so that you can become comfortable with the presentation. It is expected that you begin selling to refferals within 2 weeks. Your information on the knifes themselves is completely inaccurate. The people in this comment section are likely people who got screened out or those who just done have any drive to make money.

    It’s funny how you think that growing bud is a legitimate job and that this isn’t.

  119. “I’ve been selling Cutco for years, and I make a fortune. I’m going to buy my second property next month.”

    Said NOBODY, EVER……..

    The knives are generic, cheap crap. Made of the lowest grade blade material possible. Priced as if they’re top quality, professional grade cutting instruments.

    Stay away from them! From either direction, buying OR selling.

  120. I’ve been working with Vector for about a month now, & decided to quit TODAY. First of all, I first heard about it on craigslist. I called, left a msg, & gotta call back within 20min. I thought it was very strange that they called back that quick, but I was so overwhelmed w/ happiness at finally getting a job, that I didn’t pay attention to it at the time. I went for the interview, & seen about 13 other teens by age in there. They had us fill out an application which didn’t ask about what school we attend or attended & nothing about past work history, which also seemed shady to me. The manager; Dan Rasper, called us in, in pairs of 3. He didn’t really tell us what we were gonna be doing, neither did the girl; Autumn, on the phone. All he said it was a position for a sales rep. After the 1st part of the interview, we sat in a small room w/ pop music playing, there were posters all over the room, which reminded me of a classroom from elementary school, & trophies on the back table. The assistant manager; Jack, was very unprofessional; he was talking to us about video games & electronic music? I expected this place to be more business orientated. The manager came in & said we had to sit through a 90min presentation. I was pissed off, because I thought it’d be quick, but stayed for a presentation. That’s when he told us what we would be doing; sell overly priced knives that aren’t worth the steel they’re made w/. I was surprised & kinda disappointed because I thought this would be a 9-5 job. After this long boring presentation, he called us in, in pairs of 2. He mused about both of us “stood out”, & how only very few of us will receive the position. I immediately got the job, which I was a little skeptical about, but I was happy at the moment. The other girl got the job too. I was a little curious to see who got accepted, so I stood in the hallway while people walked out. Turns out EVERYONE got the job, & almost everyone said the manager said they “stood out.” That was another red flag, but I thought I’d still give it a try. Our training lasted 5 days, & was SUPER long & BORING. They promised we’d get paid for training, which we didn’t. It was 7hrs long, so it felt like school. We barely got to have any breaks, let alone a lunch break, & minimal bathroom breaks. After training, I tried to go out & sell their crappy knives. I didn’t do that well, but I kept trying. I ended up selling over $300 worth of stuff, & was promised $170 commission. I get my check in the mail & see that it’s only $24.80!!! Which I found to be ABSOLUTELY ridiculous. I called them up & told them I didn’t get the right amount of pay. They told me they couldn’t do anything because the check was already issued.

    Overall, steer clear from this company please! They make false promises & get you all pumped up for nothing. They also make you feel bad if you didn’t sell anything. Their knives are good, but are NOT worth the money you have to pay. They make you put your relatives on the spot so you can sell more. Their whole training manual made me feel like the biggest SOB ever. They pretty much train you to scam idiots into buying their product, which isn’t abnormal, but I’d rather not be sucked into that type of business.

  121. As a tool & die maker and plant engineer, I know for a fact that the steel used for these knives are crap ! 440 steel is one of the lowest grades of steel made, and it’s not made in the USA, only in China or Japan. We call it sh*t steel because it doesnt work for a lot of things. Yes it willl hold an edge, but once sharpened the edge breaks down quicker, because there is a low carbon point !

  122. I woek at vector n they pay me for the gass mileage sooooo idk how im losing money. Oh wait im not!!

  123. Hey all you VectorBots in the comment section, we know you’re not human. So quit posting your comments thinking that you can change people’s perception about this blatant scam.

  124. I just started this job. It is very time and energy consuming, but I can say the potential to do decent is there. This past weekend I made $150. The demo set is free, so the only investment you put in is your time. I just need the extra money and I’ve always been a decent salesman, but I will say that they do over-indoctrinate people… but honestly why wouldn’t they? They’re a business trying to MAKE MONEY. Scam? no. Is it for everyone? no. But if it’s not for you don’t go off saying its a scam just because you couldn’t make it work.

  125. I think you’re an idiot, I realized that when you said that you have to pay for the demo kit.

    And literally all the job requires is that you go to someones house and show them how the knives work, you don’t have to request referrals or anything like that.

  126. My sister works for Vector and got me an interview. During the initial group “interview,” the Vector interviewer/representative basically did a powerpoint presentation with several talking points. Among these talking points were Vector’s growth amidst the recession (whereas most companies’ profits are diminishing) and the fact that, unlike most marketing firms, they hire college students or freshly-graduated high school students with little to no experience in the field (or working at all). Throughout the entire group interview, aside from doing what I could to get accepted (there’s a very, very low level of interviewee skill required, as nearly everyone is accepted), all I could think was..
    How the f*#k does this make any money at all?

    I have an inherent distrust for marketing thanks to Bill Hicks, and Vector just goes to show how deceitful, exploitative, opportunistic and manipulative marketing types can be. Contrary to their claim that they are benevolently hiring students with little experience, their real reason for doing this is that these students are naive and desperate for work and the money that it entails. Students’ naivety and desperation results in them being willing to turn a blind eye to the nature of the work, the fact that NO ONE is going to want to listen to you preach about knives for an hour, not even soccer moms (who they will tell you are their main clients). Your parents, family, and friends might put up with it, but they’ll roll their eyes and thank god that it’s over once you’re done, only to be confused and reluctant when you ask for appointment recommendations.

    Good luck trying that on strangers once you’ve run the friends&family gauntlet. “I didn’t even buy anything. Now you want to bug my friends, and you’ll tell them I recommended you?” Honestly, if it were you, which would you go for in the event that you happened to give a shit about kitchen knives – an hour with an overly eager sales rep in your own home, or twenty minutes on the internet to find the best deal?

    Furthermore, Vector isn’t the only business booming in the recession. Prisons are too. The fact that you as a business are doing well while everyone else is set back doesn’t mean you’re an especially desirable place for employment.

    Vector is essentially a pyramid scheme, and they aren’t marketing knives so much as they are marketing the (fictional) idea of well-paid labor. As a Vector employee or employee-to-be, you’re as much their target as those who you sucker into buying the knives. Your parents, friends, and family deserve better, and so do you. Probably.

    It’s a shit job market, and all that shit flows down into opportunistic minds who build giant mounds of fecal matter and cover it up with the illusion of potential money. See through the hollow promise of prosperity and flexibility that Vector promises. Don’t jump into a pyramid-shaped pile of shit just because there’s shiny stuff on top of it.

  127. I’ve been ‘working’ at vector for a month or two now and I have to say I agree with the original post. Cutco is a wonderful product, forever guaranteed and all that good stuff. It’s just the people selling the products (and pricing them) that is just a nightmare to work with. Most of the people I have done demos for declined after hearing the price, because (guess what?) they can’t afford it. My managers tell me my customers are lying because “everybody can afford cutco.” But in actuality, no they can’t. I make little money with this ‘get rich quick’ idea they offer. So don’t knock the product, just the corporates behind it.

    Also while training to sell the product, the group never got a lunch break. This maybe a bit childish, but isn’t it illegal to withhold workers/trainees from mandatory breaks training or not? We received two 10 minute breaks, I’ll give them that. But nothing stating “go eat something.” Nope. Just “we will resume in ten minutes.” So, in other words, the trainees including myself were not granted the proper break for lunch. We went the WHOLE day (11am to 9pm) without anything to eat. I guess I was lucky enough to get a bathroom break. I could sue their asses, couldn’t I?

  128. I am really glad I got This job Vector is really great i just love Cutco knives they are the best thing on earth. sorry looks like i’m going to have cut bull sh** short they have nerve to tell me how easy it sell these knives and tell me my first demo is a guaranteed sale wrong were the hell do they get the idea that selling knives is easy I figured i’m doing something wrong it’s there strategy. the recruiter knew for a fact i was wrong for the job yet he still hires me its out lined in our manual. we hook our customers buy telling them over the phone i really need to sell you knives but of course sugar coat it if the person says there not interested we have say you are and if you already own a set of Cutco you will want more. Vector uses us because who wants to say no to a college/High school kid in need i pray they don’t make me pay for my sample knives because i’m broke look kids most people have real jobs from ex 8am to 6pm not im not gonna demo today i did 7 demos so get paid anyways and now i get to sit on my ass. look all i’m saying is vector is not for everyone but its very disturbing when they hire us kids so readily. guys get a real job it may suck buts its probably better for you any ways.

  129. Ok, a lot of this is just false statements. I currently work there, and for one, you don’t pay $200 for a demo set. I actually earned an entire Homemaker set for free which they said I could sell if I want and take all the profit. Second, ya you don’t get paid for driving, that’s why they have virtual demos you can do online with people and you can get tax write offs for gas. It’s a tough line of work that (from what I’ve seen) is not a scam, and the knives are great quality. A few customers have had their knives for over 10 years and never had problems. Saying you can find similar quality knives at Walmart is a complete lie. They’re shitty China-made knives. People who say it was a scam were clearly horrible at the job and were too lazy or unintelligent to make sales. This is a horribly misleading article. It’s not an easy job, and its not for everyone. How does that make it a scam?

  130. It’s pathetic because you can clearly tell there are Vector Marketing damage control hirees on the comment section. That shows how much this company has indoctrinated a lot of minds. Let me be honest and unbiased. It’s a scam and selling knives is the worst job you could ever have. Can you imagine? “My name is so and so and I have come to sell you really sharp nice knives, and in addition, I can sharpen them for you for free.” “Oh really! Let me run in the house and get the money.” (Brings Semi-automatic rifle). “BOOM BOOM, get the fuck off my house!!!” At least that’s how I would approach a Vector Marketing sales rep. I don’t know about you.

  131. Very interesting dialog here from many different angles but here is my take for what it is worth. Twenty five years ago my neighbors son (who was about 18) came to my home selling knives. I kindly agreed to help him out and hear the pitch. About an hour later, I had purchased a set of Cutco and I have never regretted a minute of it. Those knives have been through hundreds of dishwashings and look as good as the day I bought them. I use them almost every single day and have had the sales tech out to my home only once for sharpening. I have never had to buy another knife. So speaking from experience the product is reputable and reliable. Now let’s get to the selling part – they sell their products via home or now virtual demonstrations. This is not so unusual as many companies feel this keeps down their general admin costs. My daughter received a letter this summer just finishing high school to sell Cutco, knowing she would not be selling junk, I told her to check it out to see if she would like to try Sales! Afterall it is a sales job – which is not for everyone. She wants to study business in college so this is a good intro for her. As a parent, I am helping to set expectations about the amount of work required, the time investment and how much she will actually make. Would it be easier for her to be a cashier someplace this summer – sure but she is gaining other types of skills. If you think this is any different from any other SALES job in any major corporation your mistaken. Yes, they engage young talent to go forth and try to sell as much as you can but they learn a lot from the experience and I even bought a few more items to get her started on the right track!

  132. Not sure how it is a scam if you are presented with th selling process before you sign up.

    Most products that are still sold door to door have the same model.

    Are they selling defective knives?

  133. I had another thought with regard to the mention of Reputation Management companies. What’s the big shock here? Do you not think that 100% of all huge companies do it? I find it interesting that when small or less well-known company engages in reputation management it all of a sudden becomes naughty, taboo, and unaccepted.
    Do you not think that GM, Ford, Toyota, etc don’t hire companies to improve their reputation?
    Do you not see the oil company British Petroleum (BP) every single day on your television telling us all what a great job they’ve done cleaning the oil spill and how the environment is fully restored? Do you think they do this because they care about you or the environment? No, they care about their reputation, and they are investing billions of dollars into indoctrinating you into believing they are a great company.

  134. Have fun Trying to shred up Yahoo or google. Losers Yahoo probably makes your companies 20 million per year in one day. What are you going to do about that? Are you going to shed up Yahoo too? Lol cutco is a joke. I hope I help disuade anyone from ever even considering applying for vector. I am going to be very rude to who ever calls me tomorrow. I was so excited to get a job now I am beyond angry. You made a fool of me vector. I’m glad this website is showing your true colors. Speaking of taking legal action against people, wow you must be scared that people will find out the truth. LOSERS.

  135. Got hired yesterday, quit 2 hours later. Lol. Though it seemed like a great job but I kept thinking, who the fuck am I going to sell to? My parents and neighbors arent stupid and neither am I. I wonder if you can get a job bullshitting like they do.

  136. Thank you so much for making this website. I was about to waste my gas and time driving to an interview. I was called and asked of I knew about the company and when I asked what it was she wouldn’t tell me. She said the manager would answer all my questions. That was very strange. However I didn’t even ask how much they paid but she told me any way. 16.75. I was really excited but if I had known that before I would have immediately assumed it was a scam. Why didn’t she just say it was cutco knives? I researched the phone number she have me and nothing but positive reviews showed up. So I was suspicious then I Yahoo searched vector and the truth came out. Even if vector does stop this website it can’t stop Yahoo! F*** you vector Yahoo is a billion dollar industry, have fun trying to stop them. I don’t see one real comment by any one working for vector. No one loves selling knives that is just stupid. You have no idea how grateful I am that I found this website. The problem with your scam is you are trying to scam the new generation of people which have internet access to research your scam. Stop scamming people and make a store like every other company does. I almost made a big mistake and I am very angry that vector lied to me. They don’t pay 17 an hour they pay 17 pretty appointment. If I wanted to make a decent 340 a week I would have to make twenty appointments. That’s 960 appointments per year. Realistically I am not going to waste my money on gas driving to meet 1000 people. That makes no sense at all! I am posting thus website to my Facebook so all my friends know about it. If vector was a person I would spit in his face. Stop posting ridiculous “I love knives” posts that’s just stupid. F*** you vector and cutco I will never buy a knife from you ever, I am now your sworn enemy. Thank you who ever made this website for the post. 🙂

  137. Unbelievable. I read this entire post, and my opinion is that the job they are offering is not for you. It looks like a multilevel marketing job to me. Have you ever sold Mary Kay? How about insurance? What about real estate? You’ll find these multilevel marketing jobs in any of these, and while it’s not my chosen way to make money it is a valid and legal way to make money.

    In reading this entire post I cannot see where this company has done anything but offer your son an opportunity, and I can find no single instance where this company has caused any damages to your son.

    On the other hand, you are causing this company severe damages. You even brag and openly address the ceo of the company that you are dissuading at least 270 people per day from doing business with this company. You aren’t protecting anybody but instead you are causing damage to somebody with this trollish, and you will soon find out, illegal post.

    If this company owns Kabar brand knives then I assure you they have enough clout to hold you responsible and maybe even this website domain for hosting such trash.

    I had a company trying to get me to sell encyclopedia sets when I was in college too. Same business model as this only more boring. Most of the college kids that took the job failed at it, but some of them with superior communication skills and salesmanship made some serious money. I didn’t take the job because I knew I would have failed at it.

    You may think you taught your son a lesson, but I think your son is about to learn an even more valuable life lesson when he sees this company shred you up like a piece of paper. I hope your son’s college funds are already transferred to him because you probably won’t even have a house left when this company gets through with you. I’m just glad I’m not you.

  138. I got a letter from Vector today and was immediately skeptical… I wasn’t sure what $15 base-appt. meant, so I looked that up in conjunction with Vector and all of these negative things came up. I’m disappointed because I could’ve used a decent job, but now will continue to look elsewhere.

  139. I just got a job there and still need to go through training. Does anyone think it is worth it for experience? I’m having my doubts, especially since the town I live in is poor and I don’t have a license.

  140. Daughter got a call on Sunday (yesterday) to come in for an interview the next day. They said a friend had recommended her, which led me to believe they got the names from her school. At the interview today, she got bad vibes from the unprofessional interviewer, and they told her she did well and could stay for the second interview, which was about 90 minutes long. She would need to have $70 deposit for the knives she was going to show. She left and is not going back. Scam or not, I have heard a lot of people getting “stuck” with knives they didn’t want & paid for. Yes Avon has you buy products to show also, like Vector and I don’t know many Avon ladies making a decent living at it. Love their hearts! They didn’t tell my daughter who they were when they called Sunday. Wasn’t a total waste of time, she got interview practice.

  141. @Christopher, so you made $100 in a week? WOW BALLER! ROFL that’s 100 McDoubles you can buy! Looks like someone got brainwashed by Vector pretty well.

  142. I work for vector and I’m gonna make a hundred dollars off of just one person this week I saw in a demo and they actually live by me.. what do u say to that? Yeah I thought so….

  143. I received a letter from Vector today. Luckily, I’m a skeptic and didn’t know a damn thing about them, so I looked them up. I have to say, I am angry that a company is willing to be as unethical and misguided towards young people who really need a job. I’m even more angry to find out that they got my address from my high school. They should warn schools about scams that these so that they won’t have to give out students information like that!

  144. Ok, so I received a letter from Vector a while ago, asking for me to apply for a job. I applied and scheduled an interview (they were really nice by the way). The next thing I did was look up the company. I watched about five of their videos and my excitement for the program grew. Then I typed ‘cutco knives’ into google and bam! The word ‘scam’ followed after and I’ve done hours of searching and realized how VECTOR and Cutco is getting a lot of bad rep from people across the country. ANYWAYS, I went through the interview just to check it out. Keep in mind that I am a fresh out high school 18 year old who has done three internships that paid very well, so I was excited to still do Vector because it was a ‘job’. I landed a job with the program and quit a month later.
    Here are two of the my main problems:
    1. GAS/DRIVING: Yes, the idea of selling this product in my local area is convenient, but after a while it becomes extremely annoying. They work around your schedule which is nice, but it then dawned on me that it’s the perfect job for someone who really has the passion for it. I want to be a writer one day, so my passion for this company melted away.

    2. LEADS: I had to figure out a way to get more people to sell the product to because yeah my mom has her friends, but I need more. And that’s the problem you’ll want to sell more, so it’s like a drug addiction… you’ll want to sell more, to make more money. I fell into a dead end when I had no more leads, SO I resorted to posting advertisements around my local cafe’s, bookstores, etc. And boy, did I receive attention.

    Negative attention.

    Not at me, but at CUTCO. People then began calling me (since I put my number on the ad) and every last person turned out not be new potential customers, but angry customers and recent/old sales rep for VECTOR.

    Left to right, everyone was warning me not to work for VECTOR and some even referred me to certain job positions that were actually ‘legit’, that paid around an amount that made more sense, given the fact that I am a recent high school graduate with no job experience whatsoever.

    Overall, throughout my research I found out that there are many people out there that are coming for VECTOR. I spoke with a group of people (the angry customers that I mentioned earlier) who are organizing something behind closed doors and it’s going to be big. I will be getting compensated, along with other recent VECTOR sales reps.

    So as for a warning for VECTOR, they aren’t a bad company, their just taking advantage of the young work force when WE can be making more money getting a simple job like stated in this profound article. VECTOR make sure you get your credentials straight and facts right because things are about to get heavy…


  145. my daughter just got a call from a vector recruiter-the recruiter told her she had gotten my daughter’s name from a friend of hers (she had) and that the friend was working for vector and doing ‘really well.’ Lie. Friend had gone to the initial orientation meeting and had yet to even attend any training. Told my daughter is was NOT a sales job-Lie. Did not even tell my daughter what the product was-told her she would find all that out in training (which was 4 days-unpaid). Recruiter was EXTREMELY pushy and my daughter finally had to hang up on her.

  146. WOW! What an opinion… LOL How did KnifeUp Mag get such a distain for Vector/Cutco? Let me guess, they couldn’t measure up or didn’t make the cut?… LOL

  147. i don’t know why people cant make up their own minds. People will always listen to that first person to complain. When you get the first call to schedule an interview , all I have to say is to give it a try. How is going into an interview going to hurt you?

  148. This is probably THE best example of a classic pyramid scheme I’ve ever found in my life Vector, stop hiring people to comment positively about your company, anyone who has used the internet for more than five seconds can spot a bullshit comment like the ones below from a mile away, they’re as fake as your business model. And please, for the love of god, give up the whole “AHH I’m SO PASSIONATE ABOUT KITCHEN KNIVES!!!” routine, no one, and I mean no one, gives a fuck about their kitchen knives. Just stop. This is up there with the classic “Free vacation!” scams.

  149. @Nemesis, you wanted to make sure that you had a job that got you, “laid” hourly? What job is that? Wow.

  150. Damn. I have never seen a teenager so excited talking about knives. Lol

    I made sure to steer clear of this job. I would rather get a job that ensures that I get laid hourly.

  151. I just started working for Vector, I havent sold a lot (like $300) but it is definately a hard job, it feels like im working day in and day out – not really the job I want at the age of 19 but I like it. One thing I dont like is that taxes are not taken out, so you have to consider that when you get your paycheck. So far I have gotten my first paycheck and this Tuesday, I should be recieving my second — hopefully with all my demo hours/pay on it — and if not I’m probably going to quit and keep the knives(that I got for FREE by the way – I can purchase them if i want to though). As for the knives, I love them. They have an awesome design that feels good in my hand, there blades are really sharp, and they are light weight for easy comfort.

  152. Vector regularly hire posts glowing reviews of their own companies, for every page you see where someone complains about Vector, they have people go in there and saturate the place with obviously false glowing reviews. Sentence structure is almost always the same, the story will follow the same structure(I worked with vector for x years and now I’m a billionaire), and it’s just gratingly desperate of them. You’re a damn fool if you get played by these slick-talking bastards.

  153. For everyone that says that Vector is a scam, you are wrong. I make more money working here than I could doing anything else through college. Also, I got my starter kit with my knives for free. (Scams don’t give you stuff for free) So stop talking badly about it.

  154. Its no different from Avon or Scentsy and the knives really are pretty good. They even have a contract with the military; i got my set from a demo at the commissary. They dont charge you for the display set anymore and they offer you the base pay to make sure you arent pressuring people into buying if they dont want to. they stress that alot, actually.

  155. She is absolutely correct. I tried several “jobs” like this back in the 90’s. I stuck it out for a month or so, because I wanted to give it a chance. I wasted time and gas money. I knew when I saw this letter from Vector that it sounded just like those “jobs”. Glad I checked it out. Don’t waste your time. If you have a knack for sales, you can sell anything. The ones that are successful, good for you, but don’t say someone is ignorant because of their experience. People need a job for money, and every week that goes by w/o a pay counts. Putting out $200 up front, if they had that they wouldn’t need the job.

  156. Lol I just quit that stupid job yesterday after my first training it was lame im finding a real normal job not going around selling shit to people who might not buy fuck that lol

  157. Vector Marketing isn’t for everyone. Yes, it’s very easy to not be successful in the job, but they do everything they can to help you out. If you truly put in the effort, before you know it you can be making 30-40$ an hour.
    I’ve been working for Vector for almost two months now, and I average $40 per appointment. I didn’t sell a penny to my parents and just recently sold to my aunts and uncles. (Because the quality really is that good!)
    The knives are definitely better than the other brands you’ll find. High end knife sets, sometimes costing 3-4k, cut worse than Cutco. On my demos, I actually sharpen my customer’s knives BEFORE I do the cutting demonstration. Even Wustof and Shun knifes, with sets over 3k, can’t put up a fight against Cutco.On top of that, they’re guerenteed FOREVER, something no other knives do (Besides, so I’ve heard, some craftsmen tools?).
    If you actually did any research or your son stuck with it, you wouldn’t be so ignorant.
    It’s definitely not easy. There were weeks when, like you said, I put $80 in my gas tank and didn’t make a penny. But, if you really learn how to do your job, it really does pay off. There are tons of people, every year, who pay their tuition selling Cutco. Not to family but to strangers. And without being a pushy salesman!
    Just to sum up, don’t judge a book by it’s cover. You clearly have no idea what you’re talking about, and you may have cost some intelligent people a long term job that would take them so much further than cutting lawns. You learn communication skills and gain experience that will last you forever. (Not to mention look great on resumes!)
    I’m not even going into business! I plan to be a professor and need money to put myself through grad school.
    Plus, why would the company offer trips to the Bahamas if no one won it?

    Think before you speak.

  158. You’re an idiot. Straight jack knobb, don’t know a thing but you’ll blow your horn at others…jack ass

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